[Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Your (Roman's) DISCUSS on draft-ietf-emailcore-as and status of the document
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From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2026 12:04:32 -0700
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On Fri, Sep 25, 2026 at 10:35 AM John R Levine <johnl@ietf.email> wrote: > > My canonical example is an old printer that sends messages like "I'm out > of paper" but in general bounce messages arrive late and are baffling. > Since you mention it... this was written earlier in the year as April 1 RFC, but it ended up being too serious and not a joke. TPPIETF: The Proverbial Printer Impeding Encryption Task Forces https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-sayre-tppietf-00 thanks, Rob
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] draft-ietf-emailcore-… Rob Sayre
- [Emailcore] Your (Roman's) DISCUSS on draft-ietf-… John C Klensin
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] draft-ietf-emailcore-… Bron Gondwana
- [Emailcore] Re: Your (Roman's) DISCUSS on draft-i… Ken Murchison
- [Emailcore] Re: Your (Roman's) DISCUSS on draft-i… Jeffrey Walton
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] draft-ietf-emailcore-… John C Klensin
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] draft-ietf-emailcore-… Douglas Foster
- [Emailcore] Re: Your (Roman's) DISCUSS on draft-i… Rob Sayre
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Eliot Lear
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] draft-ietf-emailcore-… Bron Gondwana
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] draft-ietf-emailcore-… Martin J. Dürst
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Viktor Dukhovni
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] draft-ietf-emailcore-… Steffen Nurpmeso
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… John C Klensin
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] draft-ietf-emailcore-… Douglas Foster
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Viktor Dukhovni
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] draft-ietf-emailcore-… Steffen Nurpmeso
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… John Levine
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… John C Klensin
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] draft-ietf-emailcore-… Rob Sayre
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… John R Levine
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] draft-ietf-emailcore-… Bron Gondwana
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Viktor Dukhovni
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] draft-ietf-emailcore-… Rob Sayre
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] draft-ietf-emailcore-… Viktor Dukhovni
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Your (Roman's) DISCUS… Viktor Dukhovni
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Your (Roman's) DISCUS… Viktor Dukhovni
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] draft-ietf-emailcore-… Martin J. Dürst
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] draft-ietf-emailcore-… Vittorio Bertola
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… John C Klensin
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] draft-ietf-emailcore-… Rob Sayre
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… Rob Sayre
- [Emailcore] [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DISCUS… Dave Lawrence
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] draft-ietf-emailcore-… Pete Resnick
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Your (Roman's) DISCUS… Viktor Dukhovni
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] draft-ietf-emailcore-… Rob Sayre
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] draft-ietf-emailcore-… Pete Resnick
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Your (Roman's) DISCUS… Christian Huitema
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Your (Roman's) DISCUS… John C Klensin
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] draft-ietf-emailcore-… Rob Sayre
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] draft-ietf-emailcore-… John C Klensin
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Your (Roman's… Viktor Dukhovni
- [Emailcore] Re: FTP, not draft-ietf-emailcore-as … John Levine
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Your (Roman's… Michael Richardson
- [Emailcore] Re: FTP, not draft-ietf-emailcore-as … John C Klensin
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Your (Roman's… John Levine
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Your (Roman's… S Moonesamy
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Your (Roman's) DISCUS… John R Levine
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Your (Roman's… John C Klensin
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Ted Lemon
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… John R Levine
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… Ted Lemon
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… John Levine
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Bron Gondwana
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Douglas Foster
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Ted Lemon
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… S Moonesamy
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… John C Klensin
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Ted Lemon
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… Dave Cridland
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Your (Roman's… Ted Lemon
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… Eliot Lear
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Your (Roman's… Ted Lemon
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Your (Roman's… Douglas Foster
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Re: Your … Ted Lemon
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Re: Your … Rob Sayre
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Your (Roman's) DISCUS… Viktor Dukhovni
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Your (Roman's) DISCUS… Ted Lemon
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Your (Roman's) DISCUS… Viktor Dukhovni
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Your (Roman's) DISCUS… Ted Lemon
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Your (Roman's) DISCUS… Viktor Dukhovni
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Ted Lemon
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Re: Your … S Moonesamy
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Your (Roman's… Dave Cridland
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… Richard Barnes
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… John R Levine
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… Richard Barnes
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Your (Roman's) DISCUS… Viktor Dukhovni
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Richard Barnes
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Martin Thomson
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Your (Roman's) DISCUS… Viktor Dukhovni
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Eliot Lear
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Martin Thomson
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Eliot Lear
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Eliot Lear
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… John Levine
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… Nick Hilliard
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… Eric Rescorla
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… John R Levine
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… Rob Sayre
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… Eliot Lear
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… Rob Sayre
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… Eric Rescorla
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… Eliot Lear
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… Nico Williams
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… John R Levine
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… Nico Williams
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Your (Roman's) DISCUS… Viktor Dukhovni
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Your (Roman's) DISCUS… John Levine
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] draft-ietf-emailcore-… John R Levine
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: draft-ietf-em… Michael Richardson
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: draft-ietf-em… John R Levine
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Your (Roman's) DISCUS… Steffen Nurpmeso
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Steffen Nurpmeso
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Ted Lemon
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Eliot Lear
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Your (Roman's) DISCUS… Viktor Dukhovni
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Your (Roman's) DISCUS… Douglas Foster
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Your (Roman's) DISCUS… Viktor Dukhovni
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Ted Lemon
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Rob Sayre
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Your (Roman's) DISCUS… Viktor Dukhovni
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Richard Barnes
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Your (Roman's) DISCUS… Viktor Dukhovni
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… John R Levine
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… Rob Sayre
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Your (Roman's… Ted Lemon
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Your (Roman's… Douglas Foster
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Your (Roman's… Christian Huitema
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Your (Roman's… John Levine
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Your (Roman's… Eliot Lear
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Your (Roman's… John R Levine
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Your (Roman's… Rob Sayre
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Nico Williams
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Nico Williams
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… John C Klensin
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Your (Roman's) DI… Nico Williams
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… Paul Wouters
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… Steffen Nurpmeso
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Your (Rom… Douglas Foster