Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review different size limits
Steffen Nurpmeso <steffen@sdaoden.eu> Sat, 17 July 2021 16:17 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review different size limits
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John Levine wrote in <20210716181257.E397D247DB2A@ary.qy>: |According to Steffen Nurpmeso <steffen@sdaoden.eu>: |>|>Especially since presence of non 7-bit clean data imposes MIME |>|>encoding, anyway? |>| |>|Hm. You might want to investigate the 8BITMIME SMTP extension, defined \ |>|in |>|1993 and supported by every MTA I've looked at in this millenium. |> |>I have these RFCs (i have 6152 locally, it obsoleted 1652). But |>i do not think i have ever encountered usage of this myself. | |I see unencoded UTF-8 in mssages bodies all the time. ¡Hola! 😕 Your MUA created the according MIME headers, but whether it used the 8BITMIME SMTP extension when passing this over to a MTA, that is here the question. Some may not, the one i took maintainership of for example surely never did, yet supports 8bit and simply passed it over, and whereas i changed the default content- transfer-encoding the SMTP code is more or less unchanged in released versions. (That will change with the next, whenever that is, i am late by half a year at minimum, but 8BITMIME not yet in there, so you maybe even earned a credit in defiance of your invalid mail address.) I have not encountered problems from the SMTP side when actually trying out aka using these defaults (years ago), so it seems there are quite liberal SMTP engines around. |>|PS: I don't feel strongly about lifting the 1000 octet limit but I \ |>|would like |to understand how widely it's enforced by mail receivers. |> |>I would assume transmission is rejected for any such email? | |Not that I've ever seen but I haven't looked very hard. I think it's |more common to stuff in a \r\n and continue. You surely do not change body content but by doing the full MIME dance right. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)
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- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Ned Freed
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Ned Freed
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Todd Herr
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Ned Freed
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Steffen Nurpmeso
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Ned Freed
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Michael Peddemors
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Steffen Nurpmeso
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Steffen Nurpmeso
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Steffen Nurpmeso
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Jeremy Harris
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… John Levine
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- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Ned Freed
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Ned Freed
- Re: [Emailcore] encodings, was Ticket #14: G.7.8.… Steffen Nurpmeso
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