RE: [Entmib] To meet or not to meet?

Kaj Tesink <kaj@research.telcordia.com> Mon, 19 July 2004 23:46 UTC

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:36:47 -0400
To: "Sharon Chisholm" <schishol@nortelnetworks.com>, entmib@ietf.org
From: Kaj Tesink <kaj@research.telcordia.com>
Subject: RE: [Entmib] To meet or not to meet?
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At 02:44 PM 7/19/2004 -0400, Sharon Chisholm wrote:
>hi
>
>An update to the Entity State MIB was submitted this morning.  I need to go
>through the open issues and ensure that they can all be closed based on what
>was agreed and the changes that were made. I'll do that math and get back to
>you.
>
>I have no objection to meeting. It might be a light agenda though. Will the
>editor of the work be present?


i cannot be present, but can check whether another telcordia person can attend.
as far as the draft is concerned, we're talking actually only about two 
objects,
of which only one is under debate. dave p. had volunteered a fix, so that could
be something to discuss (URN approach). i'm personally rather flexible wrt the
solution so if either the meeting or an adhoc group can coble up something
we can put it in the draft and be done.

wrt the charter, perhaps bert can give some guidance here.
i suppose we dont need a meeting for that but i may be wrong.
the draft has been out there for a while and there have not
been proposals for additional functions, so the scope
of the requested work is rather clear. and with dan's offer
as reviewer we have a straightforward path to wrapup.

kaj



>Sharon
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David B Harrington [mailto:ietfdbh@comcast.net]
>Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 2:10 PM
>To: 'Faye Ly'; 'Romascanu, Dan (Dan)'; 'Margaret Wasserman'; entmib@ietf.org
>Subject: RE: [Entmib] To meet or not to meet?
>
>
>Hi,
>
>In Minneapolis, it was decided that this could not become a WG item unless
>progress was made on existing WG items. Are we ready to move the State mib
>forward, or should we drop it? What remains to be done before submitting
>this to the IESG?
>
>If work has not progressed, then the State MIB should be killed, as per
>agreement reached in Minneapolis (is anybody implementing this mib?).
>
>If the WG does still want the State mib to advance, then maybe the WG should
>meet and hammer out the final draft so it can stop being a bottleneck. Not
>having a meeting doesn't help get the work done.
>
>I support accepting the manufacturing date mib as a WG item as well, after
>resolving the State MIB progress, and the WG could discuss any needed
>changes to the details of this mib to make it acceptable as a WG item if
>there was a WG meeting.
>
>An interim meeting might be better for focused work, but I suspect that
>without a regular meeting an interim meeting won't be permitted.
>
>So I recommend that there be a **working** group meeting in San Diego to
>make some real progress on these two mibs.
>
>dbh
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: entmib-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:entmib-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
>Faye Ly
>Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 1:33 PM
>To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Margaret Wasserman; entmib@ietf.org
>Subject: RE: [Entmib] To meet or not to meet?
>
>I concur.  I think we should move this MIB forward or get it done. -faye
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: entmib-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:entmib-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
>Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
>Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 10:10 AM
>To: Margaret Wasserman; entmib@ietf.org
>Subject: RE: [Entmib] To meet or not to meet?
>
>
>Margaret,
>
>I do not have a strong objection to Entity MIB WG not meeting in San Diego.
>
>I would like however to see the 'Entity MIB Extensions for manufacturing
>date and physical module identification' a.k.a 'Kaj's draft' being continued
>and worked out as a standards track document. What are the reasons that you
>are not prepared to take this charter item, which seems to have received a
>fair amount of interest? I believe this is relative small amount of work,
>and possibly Kaj can complete it in one or two rounds if we do not
>philosophize too much around it. I volunteered to be a reviewer. There may
>be no need for meetings.
>
>Regards,
>
>Dan
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: entmib-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:entmib-bounces@ietf.org]On
> > Behalf Of Margaret Wasserman
> > Sent: 19 July, 2004 7:10 PM
> > To: entmib@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [Entmib] To meet or not to meet?
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi again,
> >
> > Just so that everyone knows, I have _not_ requested an Entity MIB
> > meeting for San Diego.  If you have any strong objection to this
> > decision, please let me know before 5pm EST today.
> >
> > We do need to finish the Entity State MIB and get it submitted to the
> > IESG, but I don't think that the remaining issues justify a
> > face-to-face meeting.
> >
> > I also support the idea that Kaj Tesink's draft should be completed
> > and published, but it is not in-charter for this group and I am not
> > prepared to take on new charter items at this time.  Folks who want to
> > work on this should talk to Kaj and/or Bert Wijnen and decide how to
> > move it forward.  Perhaps an individual submission would make the most
> > sense given that it is a short/simple MIB?
> >
> > Margaret
> >
> >
> > At 3:24 PM -0400 6/17/04, Margaret Wasserman wrote:
> > >Hi All,
> > >
> > >We should decide soon whether or not the Entity MIB WG will meet in
> > >San Diego.  Thoughts?
> > >
> > >If we do meet, what are the likely agenda items?
> > >
> > >Margaret
> > >
> > >
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