Re: [Gendispatch] some thoughts about ietf communication

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Fri, 30 July 2021 14:23 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>, "gendispatch@ietf.org" <gendispatch@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Gendispatch] some thoughts about ietf communication
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Keith and Dan have made me re-think my posting, and I was wrong. An open mic is really like the price of an open organization.  Thanks.

(Ironic since I’ve said that exact same thing more than once when people put up proposals to make “ietf@ietf” more useful. :)