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Re: [Gendispatch] some thoughts about ietf communication

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Thu, 29 July 2021 14:59 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org>, Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch>, "gendispatch@ietf.org" <gendispatch@ietf.org>, Pete Resnick <resnick@episteme.net>
Thread-Topic: [Gendispatch] some thoughts about ietf communication
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Thanks Dan, you’re right, and I appreciate the input.



Everyone’s right to free speech must be balanced by the time and effort of everyone else in the room. That’s hard to do “fairly” that works in a globally-distributed populace. Perhaps the remote nature of the past couple of plenaries made people think twice, I don’t know.

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