Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-simple-naming

On 05/31/2018 02:45 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
> We aren't assuming that. Of course in all likelihood it will be 
> present, but the vast majority of end users never even realize that 
> there is a web UI available. My point was simply that those users who 
> are aware of that will be able to cope with adversity.

Maybe that's the heart of the problem. It sounds like of like what's 
needed is a portal which
knows about all of the other devices/sites around the house and gives a 
click through to them.
That very well could be my router. Or alternatively, maybe my browser 
can figure it out itself and
cons up a web page on its very own and give me a nice shiny "homenet" 
button.

Mike

>
> On Thu, May 31, 2018, 14:41 Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com 
> <mailto:mike@mtcc.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 05/31/2018 02:32 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
>     > In practice, you just change the device's name in its web ui. Then
>     > it's starts advertising the new name, and the old name stops
>     working.
>     > If you have enough of a model of this to change the name, you also
>     > know enough to select the printer under it's new name. Of course it
>     > would be nice if we could have it publish some kind of announcement
>     > about the name change.
>
>     If we have expectation of somebody configuring their printer with
>     a web
>     UI, why should we not expect
>     the same for routers, or naming services?
>
>     IMO, people don't futz around with things unless there's a reason.
>     But
>     they will if they want/have to. These things
>     need to be dumbed down to be certain, but I've never thought we
>     need to
>     be hamstrung by the assumption
>     of zeroconf just because people don't currently have much of a
>     relationship with their networking gear.
>
>     Mike
>
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