Re: ORIGIN - suggested changes

Frederik Deweerdt <fdeweerdt@fastly.com> Wed, 15 February 2017 01:52 UTC

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From: Frederik Deweerdt <fdeweerdt@fastly.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 17:50:01 -0800
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Hello,

The implementation for H2O is being worked on here:
https://github.com/h2o/h2o/pull/1199. It's in a state that might be useful
for integration testing.

Frederik

On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 9:25 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:

> After discussion and some more edits, it *seems* like people like this
> direction, so I'm going to merge the pull and issue another draft, so that
> a wider audience can have a look. Consider the next draft an editors'
> proposal for what I think can gain consensus.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> > On 1 Feb 2017, at 5:50 pm, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
> >
> > [ editor hat ]
> >
> > After talking to a few people, I have a few suggested changes in a pull
> request:
> >  https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/285/files
> >
> > Basically, this:
> >  - Removes the requirement for a supporting client to check DNS to
> determine if the server is authoritative, when ORIGIN is received
> >  - Redefines the initial Origin Set as whatever SNI included (if
> anything).
> >
> > I suspect some adjustments will need to be made, but I wanted to get
> some feedback on the ideas first.
> >
> > Some people have also been talking about simplifying ORIGIN, e.g., by
> removing some of the set operations. I think we should talk about that on
> list first.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > --
> > Mark Nottingham   https://www.mnot.net/
> >
> >
>
> --
> Mark Nottingham   https://www.mnot.net/
>
>
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