Re: [hybi] frame length encoding
Salvatore Loreto <salvatore.loreto@ericsson.com> Sun, 22 August 2010 18:45 UTC
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On 8/21/10 9:59 PM, Pieter Hintjens wrote: > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 9:34 PM, John Tamplin<jat@google.com> wrote: > > >> But those are going to be highly compressible, and will easily compress to >> under 126 bytes, even with some application level framing around them. >> > Compression is not an option for low-latency cases (where volumes are > in the millions of messages /second). We're already finding that > zero-copy techniques halve the cost of processing. So the sweet spot > for these really high volume messages remains above 127 bytes IMO. > However, websockets is not intended for the financial markets, and > probably won't ever be used for such volumes. > > >> The main difference between #0 and #1 is that #0 uses one of three reserved >> bits. They are easy to spend, but then when we find out we need them it >> becomes much more expensive to get them back. >> > Indeed. Adding another 8 reserved bits in the header does not seem wasteful. > (as individual) I agree on the fact that with the fact that adding an extra byte to the WebSocket header would cost very little also for very small payload. I don't understand because 4bytes basic header (+length field +payload) as defined in http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-core-coap-01#section-3.1 is good for constrained devices and constrained networks: btw constrained devices are the one usually just exchanging 1byte payload and we can not define a 2byte basic header (+length field +payload) for WebSocket, reducing the complexity present in the previous proposals using 1 or 2 bits to indicate the length header, and also providing more room (bits) for future extensions (actually we could also think to use 2bits for version the protocol) cheers /Sal -- Salvatore Loreto www.sloreto.com
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