Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for draft-bray-unichars-06.txt
Steffen Nurpmeso <steffen@sdaoden.eu> Tue, 03 October 2023 00:10 UTC
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Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2023 02:10:23 +0200
Author: Steffen Nurpmeso <steffen@sdaoden.eu>
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Subject: Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for draft-bray-unichars-06.txt
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Tim Bray wrote in <CAHBU6itgC07j0P5DcACDyHSjEOG6=j5kWE=eYF8E0NA3mm_b5A@mail.gmail.com>: |On Oct 2, 2023 at 9:14:18 AM, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote: |> The IETF could pound its collective fist and say "all ill-formed Unicode |> must be rejected”, |> |> Yes, please. |> The fact that this is the only reasonable way forward is the point of RFC |> 9413. | |Now we agree! And further (especially given the threats described in |Unicode TR36) you often also want to reject control codes and |noncharacters. I think the IETF should be shouting this! That is exactly what RFC 5198 already states very clearly: 2. Net-Unicode Definition ... which goes from UTF-8, over the concept of lines (what the Bormann draft calls 1d/2d) "if the protocol has the concept", over controls in the US-ASCII range, and much more of that. I thought the Bormann draft was a vaporised outline leaving off all discussions of that 19 pages RFC (once the IETF knew about pages). Not that i take part in this thread!! Only to reiterate what there is for 15 years. Maybe buried in thousands of RFCs so noone sees it. (I would _only_ refer to Unicode. I do not understand why C0 sucks. But i like that terminal control sequences will not be used for future line-based protocols.) Off-topic, but i vote for DKIM-Store: so that mailing-lists have a place to store the originals they are about to replace or modify, so verifieable chains to the originating domains can be build, and i like my own DKIM-B?Subsignature idea. All backward compatible, which i also like. DKIM stack not robots i like. Likewise, good night. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)
- [I18ndir] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Tim Bray
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] Fwd: New Version Notification… Rob Sayre
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] Fwd: New Version Notification… Tim Bray
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] Fwd: New Version Notification… Rob Sayre
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] Fwd: New Version Notification… Tim Bray
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] Fwd: New Version Notification… Asmus Freytag
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Carsten Bormann
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Claudio Allocchio
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] Fwd: New Version Notification… Rob Sayre
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Paul Hoffman
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] Fwd: New Version Notification… Tim Bray
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] Fwd: New Version Notification… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] Fwd: New Version Notification… Rob Sayre
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] Fwd: New Version Notification… Rob Sayre
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] Fwd: New Version Notification… Tim Bray
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] Fwd: New Version Notification… Manger, James
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] Fwd: New Version Notification… Tim Bray
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] Fwd: New Version Notification… Rob Sayre
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Rob Sayre
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Carsten Bormann
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Rob Sayre
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Rob Sayre
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Tim Bray
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Rob Sayre
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Tim Bray
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] Fwd: New Version Notification… Manger, James
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] Fwd: New Version Notification… Rob Sayre
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Carsten Bormann
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Rob Sayre
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Tim Bray
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Steffen Nurpmeso
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Manger, James
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Rob Sayre
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Steffen Nurpmeso
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Tim Bray
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Rob Sayre
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Manger, James
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Tim Bray
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Carsten Bormann
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Rob Sayre
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] Fwd: New Version Notification… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [I18ndir] Fwd: New Version Notification for d… Asmus Freytag
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] Fwd: New Version Notification… Manger, James
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Tim Bray
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Carsten Bormann
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Rob Sayre
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Rob Sayre
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Manger, James
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] Fwd: New Version Notification… Rob Sayre
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Carsten Bormann
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Carsten Bormann
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Rob Sayre
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] Fwd: New Version Notification… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Rob Sayre
- Re: [I18ndir] [art] New Version Notification for … Rob Sayre