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Hello Rob, others,

On 2023-10-03 01:42, Rob Sayre wrote:

> Basically, UTF-8 is a work of genius, but it arrived 10 years too late.
> JavaScript, Windows, Java, and all the rest of them were underway before we
> got RFC 2277. Things would be much different if it had appeared in 1982 and
> everyone then realized that you don't need Θ(1) access to characters in a
> string...

You make it sound like Java already existed in the (early!) 1980ies, but 
the history is much more compressed. Java started in the early 1990ies. 
And RFC 2277 was published in 1998, but before that, there was RFC 2130, 
and the workshop that was the base for it in Feb/March 1996.

Another way to express the problem is to say that the emoji craze should 
have happened much earlier, because emoji beyond the BMP (the original 
16-bit space) were the main driver to get UTF-16 taken seriously in 
programming languages such as Java and in databases :-).

Regards,   Martin.

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