[Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf-ideas-00-06: (with BLOCK)
Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> Wed, 11 October 2017 14:53 UTC
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Subject: [Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf-ideas-00-06: (with BLOCK)
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Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for charter-ietf-ideas-00-06: Block When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-ideas/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BLOCK: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I do not think this group is ready to be chartered at this time given the significant objections from the community. There seem to be two key problems with the work as proposed: (1) The work is insufficiently motivated. The claims about the need for the mapping system and the identity management system envisioned here do not appear to be backed up by those who have developed and deployed ID/LOC separation protocols. Nor do there seem to be compelling arguments that the framework that this proposed WG would produce would be the motivator for further interoperable deployments. (2) The work proposed here seems as if it would have a substantial intrinsic impact on user privacy if widely deployed. In cases like these, I don't believe it's sufficient to say that the WG will analyze the situation and propose mitigations; the work proposal itself needs to explain how the design of the infrastructure envisioned is going to mitigate what seem like obvious attacks on privacy that the proposed designs open up. I think further discussions of this work (in private, on the list, at a bar in Singapore, or at a potential future BoF) would need to resolve both of the above issues in order to address concerns raised by the community.
- [Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf-ide… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf… Sam Sun
- Re: [Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf… Dino Farinacci
- Re: [Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf… Padma Pillay-Esnault
- Re: [Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf… Dino Farinacci
- Re: [Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf… Tom Herbert
- Re: [Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf… Dino Farinacci
- Re: [Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf… Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf… Dino Farinacci
- Re: [Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf… Padma Pillay-Esnault
- Re: [Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf… Sam Sun
- Re: [Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf… Dino Farinacci
- Re: [Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf… Sam Sun
- Re: [Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf… Alia Atlas
- Re: [Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf… Dino Farinacci
- Re: [Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf… Sam Sun
- Re: [Ideas] Alissa Cooper's Block on charter-ietf… Lan Gao