Re: [Ietf-languages] Forms for variants of Ladin

[Doug Ewell <[e-mail]>]

'valbadia' was the subtag originally proposed by Samuel back in November, before others were added. The subtag values as currently proposed were arrived at after some previous values were rejected administratively (too short, invalid character).

Personally, I don’t see any advantage to truncating 'fascia' and 'valbadia', which are the actual names of the regions, to fit an artificial length limit. In fact, if 'anpez' is simply a truncation to 5 rather than an adjectival or locally well-known form, I might slightly prefer 'anpezo'.

--
Doug Ewell, CC, ALB | Lakewood, CO, US | ewellic.org


-----Original Message-----
From: Ietf-languages <[e-mail]> On Behalf Of Michael Everson
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 11:28
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] Forms for variants of Ladin

I am happy enough with these. Would there be any utility in having them all have the same length (5 letters)?

M

> On Feb 4, 2024, at 06:05, Doug Ewell <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> Based on Samuel Frontull’s updated suggestions for subtag values, here is a complete and updated set of proposed records and registration forms for the five variant subtags for Ladin.
> 
> In addition to updating the subtag values, these forms have been modified to lowercase the word “standard” in the Description fields, for consistency with many other variant records in the Registry, and to enforce line wrapping to a maximum of 72 UTF-8 code units per line, particularly in the Comments fields. The presumed typo “Luncia’ was also changed to “Lucia’.
> 
> The review period for these subtags ends Sunday, February 18 AoE. Please review these forms and send comments to the list by that time.
> 
> ---
> 
> LANGUAGE SUBTAG MODIFICATION
> File-Date: 2024-xx-xx
> %%
> Type: variant
> Subtag: anpez
> Description: Anpezo standard of Ladin
> Added: 2024-xx-xx
> Prefix: lld
> Comments: Represents the standard written form of Ladin in Anpezo %%
> 
> ---
> 
> LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM
>   1. Name of requester: Samuel Frontull
>   2. E-mail address of requester: [e-mail]
>   3. Record Requested:
> 
>      Type: variant
>      Subtag: anpez
>      Description: Anpezo standard of Ladin
>      Prefix: lld
>      Comments: Represents the standard written form of Ladin in Anpezo
> 
>   4. Intended meaning of the subtag:
> 
>      The subtag represents the standard written form of Ladin in Anpezo.
> 
>   5. Reference to published description
>      of the language (book or article):
> 
>      - Tobia Moroder, "The Ladins of the Dolomites", Folio Verlag, 
> Istitut Ladin Micurá de Rü, 2016
> 
> https://www.plus.ac.at/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/RB-The-Ladins-2022.p
> df
> 
>      - Wikipedia contributors, "Ladin language," Wikipedia, The Free 
> Encyclopedia,
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ladin_language&oldid=119720
> 5539
> (accessed February 1, 2024).
> 
>   6. Any other relevant information:
> 
>    The development and preservation of this specific variant (and of 
> Ladin in general) is one of the objectives of the Ladin Cultural 
> Institute "Cesa de Jan" [1].
>    News written in this variant are published on the website of "La 
> Usc di Ladins" [2].
> 
>    [1] https://www.istitutoladino.org/
>    [2] https://www.lausc.it/valedes-ladines/anpezo
> 
> ---
> 
> LANGUAGE SUBTAG MODIFICATION
> File-Date: 2024-xx-xx
> %%
> Type: variant
> Subtag: fascia
> Description: Fascia standard of Ladin
> Added: 2024-xx-xx
> Prefix: lld
> Comments: Represents the standard written form of Ladin in Fascia 
> which  unified the three subvarieties Cazet, Brach and Moenat %%
> 
> ---
> 
> LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM
>   1. Name of requester: Samuel Frontull
>   2. E-mail address of requester: [e-mail]
>   3. Record Requested:
> 
>      Type: variant
>      Subtag: fascia
>      Description: Fascia standard of Ladin
>      Prefix: lld
>      Comments: Represents the standard written form of Ladin in Fascia which
>        unified the three subvarieties Cazet, Brach and Moenat
> 
>   4. Intended meaning of the subtag:
> 
>      The subtag represents the standard written form of Ladin in 
> Fascia which unified the three subvarieties Cazet, Brach and Moenat 
> spoken in this region.
> 
>   5. Reference to published description
>      of the language (book or article):
> 
>      - Tobia Moroder, "The Ladins of the Dolomites", Folio Verlag, 
> Istitut Ladin Micurá de Rü, 2016
> 
> https://www.plus.ac.at/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/RB-The-Ladins-2022.p
> df
> 
>      - Wikipedia contributors, "Ladin language," Wikipedia, The Free 
> Encyclopedia,
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ladin_language&oldid=119720
> 5539
> (accessed February 1, 2024).
> 
>   6. Any other relevant information:
> 
>    The development and preservation of this specific variant (and of 
> Ladin in general) is one of the objectives of the Ladin Cultural 
> Institute "Majon di Fascegn" [1].
>    News written in this variant are published on the website of "La 
> Usc di Ladins" [2].
> 
>    [1] https://www.istladin.net/it/istitut-cultural-ladin
>    [2] https://www.lausc.it/valedes-ladines/fascia
> 
> ---
> 
> LANGUAGE SUBTAG MODIFICATION
> File-Date: 2024-xx-xx
> %%
> Type: variant
> Subtag: fodom
> Description: Fodom standard of Ladin
> Added: 2024-xx-xx
> Prefix: lld
> Comments: Represents the standard written form of Ladin in 
> Livinallongo  and Colle Santa Lucia %%
> 
> ---
> 
> LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM
>   1. Name of requester: Samuel Frontull
>   2. E-mail address of requester: [e-mail]
>   3. Record Requested:
> 
>      Type: variant
>      Subtag: fodom
>      Description: Fodom standard of Ladin
>      Prefix: lld
>      Comments: Represents the standard written form of Ladin in Livinallongo
>        and Colle Santa Lucia
> 
>   4. Intended meaning of the subtag:
> 
>      The subtag represents the standard written form of Ladin in 
> Livinallongo and Colle Santa Lucia.
> 
>   5. Reference to published description
>      of the language (book or article):
> 
>      - Tobia Moroder, "The Ladins of the Dolomites", Folio Verlag, 
> Istitut Ladin Micurá de Rü, 2016
> 
> https://www.plus.ac.at/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/RB-The-Ladins-2022.p
> df
> 
>      - Wikipedia contributors, "Ladin language," Wikipedia, The Free 
> Encyclopedia,
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ladin_language&oldid=119720
> 5539
> (accessed February 1, 2024).
> 
>   6. Any other relevant information:
> 
>    The development and preservation of this specific variant (and of 
> Ladin in general) is one of the objectives of the Ladin Cultural 
> Institute "Cesa de Jan" [1].
>    News written in this variant are published on the website of "La 
> Usc di Ladins" [2].
> 
>    [1] https://www.istitutoladino.org/
>    [2] https://www.lausc.it/valedes-ladines/fodom
> 
> ---
> 
> LANGUAGE SUBTAG MODIFICATION
> File-Date: 2024-xx-xx
> %%
> Type: variant
> Subtag: gherd
> Description: Gherdëina standard of Ladin
> Added: 2024-xx-xx
> Prefix: lld
> Comments: Represents the standard written form of Ladin in Gherdëina 
> %%
> 
> ---
> 
> LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM
>   1. Name of requester: Samuel Frontull
>   2. E-mail address of requester: [e-mail]
>   3. Record Requested:
> 
>      Type: variant
>      Subtag: gherd
>      Description: Gherdëina standard of Ladin
>      Prefix: lld
>      Comments: Represents the standard written form of Ladin in 
> Gherdëina
> 
>   4. Intended meaning of the subtag:
> 
>      The subtag represents the standard written form of Ladin in Gherdëina.
> 
>   5. Reference to published description
>      of the language (book or article):
> 
>      - Tobia Moroder, "The Ladins of the Dolomites", Folio Verlag, 
> Istitut Ladin Micurá de Rü, 2016
> 
> https://www.plus.ac.at/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/RB-The-Ladins-2022.p
> df
> 
>      - Wikipedia contributors, "Ladin language," Wikipedia, The Free 
> Encyclopedia,
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ladin_language&oldid=119720
> 5539
> (accessed February 1, 2024).
> 
> 
>   6. Any other relevant information:
> 
>    The development and preservation of this specific variant (and of 
> Ladin in general) is one of the objectives of the Ladin Cultural 
> Institute "Micurá de Rü" [1].
>    News written in this variant are published on the website of "La 
> Usc di Ladins" [2].
> 
>    [1] https://www.micura.it/en/istitut-ladin/objectives
>    [2] https://www.lausc.it/valedes-ladines/gherdeina
> 
> ---
> 
> LANGUAGE SUBTAG MODIFICATION
> File-Date: 2024-xx-xx
> %%
> Type: variant
> Subtag: valbadia
> Description: Val Badia standard of Ladin
> Added: 2024-xx-xx
> Prefix: lld
> Comments: Represents the standard written form of Ladin in the Val  
> Badia, unifying the three variants Marô, Mesaval and Badiot spoken  in 
> this valley %%
> 
> ---
> 
> LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM
>   1. Name of requester: Samuel Frontull
>   2. E-mail address of requester: [e-mail]
>   3. Record Requested:
> 
>      Type: variant
>      Subtag: valbadia
>      Description: Val Badia standard of Ladin
>      Prefix: lld
>      Comments: Represents the standard written form of Ladin in the Val
>        Badia, unifying the three variants Marô, Mesaval and Badiot spoken
>        in this valley
> 
>   4. Intended meaning of the subtag:
> 
>      The subtag represents the standard written form of Ladin in the 
> Val Badia, unifying the three variants Marô, Mesaval and Badiot spoken 
> in this valley.
> 
>   5. Reference to published description
>      of the language (book or article):
> 
>      - Tobia Moroder, "The Ladins of the Dolomites", Folio Verlag, 
> Istitut Ladin Micurá de Rü, 2016
> 
> https://www.plus.ac.at/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/RB-The-Ladins-2022.p
> df
> 
>      - Wikipedia contributors, "Ladin language," Wikipedia, The Free 
> Encyclopedia,
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ladin_language&oldid=119720
> 5539
> (accessed February 1, 2024).
> 
>   6. Any other relevant information:
> 
>    The development and preservation of this specific variant (and of 
> Ladin in general) is one of the objectives of the Ladin Cultural 
> Institute "Micurá de Rü" [1].
>    News written in this variant are published on the website of "La 
> Usc di Ladins" [2].
> 
>    [1] https://www.micura.it/en/istitut-ladin/objectives
>    [2] https://www.lausc.it/valedes-ladines/val-badia
> 
> 
> --
> Doug Ewell, CC, ALB | Lakewood, CO, US | ewellic.org
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Ietf-languages mailing list
> [e-mail]
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-languages

_______________________________________________
Ietf-languages mailing list
[e-mail]
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-languages