Re: [Ietf-languages] LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM

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From: Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org>
To: Samuel Frontull <samuelfrontull@gmail.com>, Johannes Jacobus Steenwijk <han.steenwijk@unipd.it>
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Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM
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Samuel Frontull wrote:

> Therefore, these variants should actually all be registered separately
> and subtags should also be created for the standardised written
> languages. Is that possible?

In private communication, Samuel earlier clarified to me that the current proposal forms for 'valbadia' and for Gherdëina (revised subtag value TBD) were not intended for dialects, but for “written standards” which apply one or more dialects each.

If I understand this latest post correctly, Samuel is now suggesting separate variants for both the dialects *and* the written standards.

I’m genuinely not sure how much support will exist for breaking down Ladin, a language with roughly 41,000 native speakers, this finely. I note that there may be confusion about how to combine a Ladin dialect variant with a Ladin written-standard variant in one big, overspecified tag.

I‘m also wondering about comparisons with Resian, a dialect of Slovene with fewer than 1,000 native speakers, for which we registered multiple levels of variant subtags back in 2005, which make great illustrative examples of how to combine subtags, but which might not see much real-world usage.

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