Re: [Ietf-languages] LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM

[Sebastian Drude <[e-mail]>]

Dear all,


could this be an instance for which the multi-dimensional framework for 
dealing with language variation as (being) established in ISO 21636 
could be fruitfully applied?

We have not yet discussed, let alone created, the necessary extension(s) 
for registering variants in the different dimensions -- in this case, 
the dimensions of space (dialects, standard varieties and the like) and 
of medium (different writing systems).  As several Ladin dialects seem 
to share a writing system, this seems an excellent opportunity for me to 
enter this discussion, which I wanted to bring up soon  anyway.

I agree that there is not to be expected a high-frequent use of the 
entries to be created, but even then, better create them in an organized 
way then not creating them at all, I would say.

Best,

Sebastian

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On 24/11/2023 20:38, Doug Ewell wrote:
> Samuel Frontull wrote:
>
>> Therefore, these variants should actually all be registered separately
>> and subtags should also be created for the standardised written
>> languages. Is that possible?
> In private communication, Samuel earlier clarified to me that the current proposal forms for 'valbadia' and for Gherdëina (revised subtag value TBD) were not intended for dialects, but for “written standards” which apply one or more dialects each.
>
> If I understand this latest post correctly, Samuel is now suggesting separate variants for both the dialects *and* the written standards.
>
> I’m genuinely not sure how much support will exist for breaking down Ladin, a language with roughly 41,000 native speakers, this finely. I note that there may be confusion about how to combine a Ladin dialect variant with a Ladin written-standard variant in one big, overspecified tag.
>
> I‘m also wondering about comparisons with Resian, a dialect of Slovene with fewer than 1,000 native speakers, for which we registered multiple levels of variant subtags back in 2005, which make great illustrative examples of how to combine subtags, but which might not see much real-world usage.
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