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Re: IETF Slack workspace

Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> Fri, 28 August 2020 21:09 UTC

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Subject: Re: IETF Slack workspace
From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
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Thanks for making my point. That the IETF is open so while people may want privacy we know who the participants are and how the note well applies. 

This isn't some idealistic fantasy land, we are still bound by some practical bits which often seem to be lost by the folks who get high on certain remarks. 

Operators and users need things that work. The IETF reliance on XMPP needs to go the way or directed broadcast and mode 7 NTP on public networks. 

The meet echo integration was great this time, and if we build more tools like this they will gain acceptance. 

I can't use XMPP due to the a variety of reasons about how poorly it works for a user and administrator. 

Things like slack are successful because they work for the users. 

When the first RF  is published by an anonymous user In an anonymous WG and is covered by the note well let me know. 

Sent from my iCar

> On Aug 28, 2020, at 3:36 PM, Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> wrote:
> 
> Kids generally aren't concerned about a number of issues that are important to IETF - such as privacy

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