Re: Diversity and offensive terminology in RFCs

Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@kot-begemot.co.uk> Thu, 20 September 2018 13:11 UTC

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Subject: Re: Diversity and offensive terminology in RFCs
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On 9/20/18 12:41 PM, Niels ten Oever wrote:
> On 09/20/2018 01:25 PM, Stewart Bryant wrote:
>> The term master/slave is used when it is technically required that the instruction is executed without equivocation.
> Would leader/follower (as implemented by Django) not work just as well?

No.

A follower is following the leader because it has agreed to be lead. As 
correctly noted by Stewart, in a master/slave hardware (or software) 
configuration nobody asks the slave about its opinion on things.

> It seems to work for them for quite a while already.

And? So what?

A.

>
> Best,
>
> Niels
>