Re: [dmarc-ietf] Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC.
Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> Fri, 13 June 2014 11:55 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC.
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Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Phillip Hallam-Baker writes: > > > My point is that mail is an old protocol and people who expect that > > it can be kept going unaltered in its original form serving all the > > purposes that it was never designed for but have emerged over time > > are going to be upset no matter what. > > True, as far as it goes. However, there is need for a push protocol > that allows you to receive contacts from authors you don't know yet, > in other words, a medium that is designed to be flexible enough to > accomodate new modes of communication. > > It's not obvious to me that this need can be satisfied while at the > same time denying spam. If it is indeed impossible, I don't see why > that purpose can't continue to be served by email, while most mail > (which is correspondence among acquaintances) gets redirected into > authenticated channels. > Just a quick reminder here: Postal mail is still going strong, after 100s of years. -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra
- Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC. Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC. Martin Rex
- Re: Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC. Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC. Dave Crocker
- Re: Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC. John C Klensin
- Re: Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC. Ted Lemon
- Re: Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC. Ted Lemon
- Re: Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC. Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC. Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Change the mailing list protocol… Miles Fidelman
- Webmail is implementation, not Internet architect… Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Change the mailing list protocol… Miles Fidelman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Change the mailing list protocol… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC. Tony Finch
- Re: Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC. Ted Lemon
- Re: Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC. Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC. Tony Finch
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Change the mailing list protocol… Stephen J. Turnbull
- Re: Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC. Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Change the mailing list protocol… Miles Fidelman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Change the mailing list protocol… Joe Abley
- Re: Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC. John C Klensin
- Re: Webmail is implementation, not Internet archi… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Webmail is implementation, not Internet archi… Miles Fidelman
- Re: Webmail is implementation, not Internet archi… ned+ietf
- Re: Webmail is implementation, not Internet archi… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Webmail is implementation, not Internet archi… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: Webmail is implementation, not Internet archi… Dave Crocker
- email client popularity [was Webmail is implement… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: email client popularity [was Webmail is imple… ned+ietf
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Change the mailing list protocol… Brandon Long
- Re: email client popularity [was Webmail is imple… Eric Burger
- Re: email client popularity [was Webmail is imple… ned+ietf
- Re: email client popularity [was Webmail is imple… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: email client popularity [was Webmail is imple… Stephen Casner
- Re: email client popularity [was Webmail is imple… Theodore Ts'o
- Re: email client popularity [was Webmail is imple… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: email client popularity [was Webmail is imple… John C Klensin
- Re: email client popularity [was Webmail is imple… Ted Lemon
- Re: email client popularity [was Webmail is imple… Tony Finch
- Re: email client popularity [was Webmail is imple… Ted Lemon
- Re: email client popularity [was Webmail is imple… John C Klensin
- Re: email client popularity [was Webmail is imple… Scott Brim
- Re: email client popularity [was Webmail is imple… Hector Santos
- Re: email client popularity [was Webmail is imple… John C Klensin
- Re: email client popularity [was Webmail is imple… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: email client popularity [was Webmail is imple… Hector Santos
- Re: email client popularity [was Webmail is imple… Miles Fidelman
- Re: email client popularity [was Webmail is imple… Hector Santos
- Re: Webmail is implementation, not Internet archi… Mark Rousell