RE: RIM patents a URN (and ignores IETF IPR rules)
"Contreras, Jorge" <Jorge.Contreras@wilmerhale.com> Fri, 20 November 2009 20:03 UTC
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Subject: RE: RIM patents a URN (and ignores IETF IPR rules)
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From: "Contreras, Jorge" <Jorge.Contreras@wilmerhale.com>
To: Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com>, Michael Montemurro <montemurro.michael@gmail.com>
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> -----Original Message----- > From: Contreras, Jorge > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:38 PM > To: 'Fred Baker'; Michael Montemurro > Cc: Cullen Jennings; IETF-Discussion list > Subject: RE: RIM patents a URN (and ignores IETF IPR rules) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ietf-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-bounces@ietf.org] On > > Behalf Of Fred Baker > > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 8:53 PM > > To: Michael Montemurro > > Cc: Cullen Jennings; IETF-Discussion list > > Subject: Re: RIM patents a URN (and ignores IETF IPR rules) > > > > In my company's case, we file IPR disclosures on patent > applications > > as well as allowed claims. That is consistent with our corporate > > policy of encouraging innovation and patenting defensively; our > > disclosures as a rule include the fact that we do not seek > monetary > > reward unless another party would rather trade IPR licenses > mediated > > by expensive lawyers than accept a free RFC 1988 license. > > Fred - this is not only good corporate practice, disclosure > of patent applications > is unambiguously required by RFC 3977. Just to clarify: I was referring to the first part of Fred's paragraph: what's required is disclosing patent applications, not the other corporate policies that Fred's company might adopt. >
- RIM patents a URN (and ignores IETF IPR rules) Cullen Jennings
- Re: RIM patents a URN (and ignores IETF IPR rules) Alexey Melnikov
- Re: RIM patents a URN (and ignores IETF IPR rules) Michael Montemurro
- Re: RIM patents a URN (and ignores IETF IPR rules) tytso
- Re: RIM patents a URN (and ignores IETF IPR rules) Randy Presuhn
- Re: RIM patents a URN (and ignores IETF IPR rules) Fred Baker
- Re: RIM patents a URN (and ignores IETF IPR rules) Andrew G. Malis
- RE: RIM patents a URN (and ignores IETF IPR rules) Contreras, Jorge
- RE: RIM patents a URN (and ignores IETF IPR rules) Contreras, Jorge
- Re: RIM patents a URN (and ignores IETF IPR rules) Fred Baker