Re: RIM patents a URN (and ignores IETF IPR rules)

Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com> Fri, 20 November 2009 21:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: RIM patents a URN (and ignores IETF IPR rules)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:50:09 +0900
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On Nov 21, 2009, at 4:38 AM, Contreras, Jorge wrote:

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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ietf-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-bounces@ietf.org] On
>> Behalf Of Fred Baker
>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 8:53 PM
>> To: Michael Montemurro
>> Cc: Cullen Jennings; IETF-Discussion list
>> Subject: Re: RIM patents a URN (and ignores IETF IPR rules)
>>
>> In my company's case, we file IPR disclosures on patent  
>> applications as well as allowed claims. That is consistent with our  
>> corporate policy of encouraging innovation and patenting  
>> defensively; our disclosures as a rule include the fact that we do  
>> not seek monetary reward unless another party would rather trade  
>> IPR licenses mediated by expensive lawyers than accept a free RFC  
>> 1988 license.
>
> Fred - this is not only good corporate practice, disclosure of  
> patent applications is unambiguously required by RFC 3977.

Of course. But to my small mind, the stronger argument is not "the  
rules say..." but "the reason the rules say that is...".