RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores IETF IPR rules)

Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com> Thu, 19 November 2009 02:02 UTC

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Subject: RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores IETF IPR rules)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:02:08 -0700
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On October 8, the IESG approved the registration of application/3gpp- 
ims+xml Media Type.  On Nov 2, RIM filed an IPR disclosure related to  
this at


The associated patent, filed Oct 2008, is at


and the related draft is


I will note John-Luc Bakker from RIM is an author of both the patent  
and  and the draft. The draft has been widely discussed at IETF with  
no mention of IPR before this. As an IESG member, I was not aware of  
this IPR at the time the approval was made and I do not believe any  
other IESG members were aware of it. I do believe the discussion would  
have been different had the IESG been aware of this IPR.

If anyone thinks this is, ah, inappropriate, I would recommend they  
appeal the IESG decision to approve this. (see section 6.5 of RFC 2026  
for how this works).  An IETF LC on this in the future would allow the  
community to make an decision that was informed of the IPR.