Re: RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores IETF IPR rules)

[Simon Josefsson <[e-mail]>]

Scott Brim <[e-mail]> writes:

> Simon Josefsson allegedly wrote on 11/30/2009 10:11 AM:
>> There is no requirement in the IETF process for organizations to
>> disclose patents as far as I can see.  The current approach of only
>> having people participate, and disclose patents, in the IETF is easy to
>> work around by having two persons in an organization doing different
>> things: one works on specifying and standardizing technology, and the
>> other is working on patenting the technology.
>
> Simon, from rfc3979:
>
>    l. "Reasonably and personally known": means something an individual
>       knows personally or, because of the job the individual holds,
>       would reasonably be expected to know.  This wording is used to
>       indicate that an organization cannot purposely keep an individual
>       in the dark about patents or patent applications just to avoid the
>       disclosure requirement.  But this requirement should not be
>       interpreted as requiring the IETF Contributor or participant (or
>       his or her represented organization, if any) to perform a patent
>       search to find applicable IPR.

I don't see how this modifies anything?  The legal obligation is on the
IETF participant, not on the organization.  The organization is not
bound by this text.

/Simon