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Re: RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores IETF IPR rules)

Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> Mon, 30 November 2009 17:51 UTC

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From: Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org>
To: Arnt Gulbrandsen <arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no>
Subject: Re: RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores IETF IPR rules)
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Arnt Gulbrandsen <arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no> writes:

> Simon Josefsson writes:
>> There is no requirement in the IETF process for organizations to
>> disclose patents as far as I can see. The current approach of only
>> having people participate, and disclose patents, in the IETF is easy
>> to work around by having two persons in an organization doing
>> different things: one works on specifying and standardizing
>> technology, and the other is working on patenting the technology.
>
> How can you practically avoid the first person knowing about it?

Make sure (through confidentiality agreements) that the second one do
not talk with the first?  Putting them in different continents helps.

/Simon

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