Re: RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores IETF IPRrules)

[Alexey Melnikov <[e-mail]>]

John-Luc Bakker wrote:

>Dear all,
>
>With regard to the recent discussion regarding RIM's recent IPR
>disclosures, I understand the community's concerns regarding the
>timeliness of the disclosure.  As employees of companies we are bound by
>confidentiality obligations and, in addition, cannot always control our
>company's internal processes.  The community's concerns have been
>brought to the attention of my employer and they are in the process of
>evaluating the concerns.  My company has asked for your patience while
>they take the time to evaluate the concerns and determine if there is an
>appropriate course of action in this matter to alleviate the concerns of
>the community.
>
>Your understanding is appreciated.
>  
>
John-Luc, I would like to understand if RIM's recent IPR disclosures 
affect general use of application/3gpp-ims+xml, or only its specific use 
as described in draft-bakker-sipping-3gpp-ims-xml-body-handling.

Thank you,
Alexey

P.S. I understand that my question might be naive or stupid, but I have 
no doubts people will tell me if it is.

>Kind regards,
>
>	John-Luc
>
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>Subject: Re: RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores
>IETF IPRrules)
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>  
>
>>FWIW, I agree with Brian.  Pulling this (waiting until the IESG
>>approves and only then filing the disclosure) on a media type
>>registration seems particularly egregious but is, in any event,
>>exactly the type of situation the IPR rules are intended to
>>prevent.  Like him, I believe that the IESG can recind its
>>action on this basis without having to go through the procedural
>>clutter of an appeal.  In addition, if an appeal were really
>>necessary, nothing prevents one or more of the IESG members who
>>believe that they would have acted differently had the
>>disclosure occurred on a timely basis from filing it.
>>    
>>
>
>+1
>
>I'll also note that nothing prevents then from registrering this in the
>media
>type vnd. tree.
>
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