Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech industry ? The Register
Mary Barnes <mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com> Mon, 30 April 2012 19:52 UTC
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Subject: Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech industry ? The Register
From: Mary Barnes <mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com>
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Here is an article that does a far better job of explaining the situation than I did: http://www.todaysengineer.org/2011/May/women-in-engineering.asp The largest reason women leave engineering is due to the work environment and perceived lack of support from colleagues. Although, the one bonus of the lack of women in IETF is that we never have to wait in line for the restroom with one exception - the little broom closets in the Paris venue. Mary. On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Mary Barnes <mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com>wrote: > Yes, the article is far from complete. But, your antecdote only goes to > show your own bias towards women in science and engineering in general. By > the time most females reach high school they have already been conditioned > that girls aren't as good as boys in math and science. There's a far amount > of studies showing this - at least in the US. As Monique said it is a very > complex issue. Some of it starts at home and it starts extremely early. > It's far more common for girls to be told they are pretty rather than > smart. They have found some physiologic reasons that do influence math > abilities - those with "math brains" tend to have higher levels of > testosterone. > > That all said, it still doesn't explain why the percentage of women active > in the IETF is less than the percentage of women that are in the field. But > it might have something to do with IETFers sharing your perspective that > women just aren't interested. > > Regards, > Mary. > On Apr 30, 2012 4:04 AM, "Riccardo Bernardini" <framefritti@gmail.com> > wrote: >
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Mary Barnes
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Riccardo Bernardini
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Melinda Shore
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Mary Barnes
- RE: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Worley, Dale R (Dale)
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Janet P Gunn
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Richard L. Barnes
- RE: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… ned+ietf
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Ofer Inbar
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Fred Baker
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Glen Zorn
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Yoav Nir
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Yoav Nir
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Riccardo Bernardini
- RE: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Yaakov Stein
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Mary Barnes
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Scott Brim
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Monique Morrow
- Re: [IETF] Re: 'Geek' image scares women away fro… Warren Kumari
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Yoav Nir
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Randy Presuhn
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Melinda Shore
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… John C Klensin
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Hector
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Melinda Shore
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Hector
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Janet P Gunn
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Hector
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Thomas Narten
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Yoav Nir
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Janet P Gunn
- RE: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Richard Shockey
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Mary Barnes
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Hector Santos
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Mary Barnes
- Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Rumbidzayi Gadhula
- RE: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech indu… Worley, Dale R (Dale)