Re: Proposed Statement on "HTTPS everywhere for the IETF"

Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> Tue, 02 June 2015 17:00 UTC

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On 6/1/2015 10:16 AM, Richard Barnes wrote:
> Do it.  Do it boldly and fearlessly.  Make the statement and implement it.
> 
...
> Don't be tied to legacy.  Anything that doesn't support HTTPS at this
> point needs to upgrade and deserves to be broken.

Leaving out the have-nots - or those whose access is blocked by others
when content cannot be scanned - isn't moving forward.

HTTP isn't legacy. It's open. I thought the IETF was too.

Joe

PS - I noticed you didn't PGP-sign this post. Hello, pot.

(ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_pot_calling_the_kettle_black)