Re: Workload constants [was I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt]
"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Fri, 22 October 2021 17:08 UTC
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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>, Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, Barry Leiba <barryleiba=40computer.org@dmarc.ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: Workload constants [was I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt]
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> There was a huge difference in another metric, the time from initial draft to published RFC. Back in 1998, the median delay was one year. It was already more than 3 years in 2008, and still is. Much of the delays happen in the working group, from initial draft to last call. So the common beliefs that things are taking longer is wrong (for the past 13 years!) and that the delays are because WG's are sending less-good documents to the IESG is wrong. My theory for the possible increased mail traffic is that folks are doing more business between meetings, and the increased use of GitHub which increases volume because of increased participation. Always good to have real numbers.
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- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt John C Klensin
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Brian E Carpenter
- RE: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Adrian Farrel
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Salz, Rich
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt John C Klensin
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Jared Mauch
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt John Levine
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Keith Moore
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Carsten Bormann
- RE: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Jared Mauch
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- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Salz, Rich
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Joel M. Halpern
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Salz, Rich
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Joel M. Halpern
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Michael Richardson
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt tom petch
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Michael StJohns
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Barry Leiba
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Keith Moore
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt John Levine
- Workload constants [was I-D Action: draft-rsalz-t… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Workload constants [was I-D Action: draft-rsa… Keith Moore
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt tom petch
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Workload constants [was I-D Action: draft-rsa… Salz, Rich
- Re: Workload constants [was I-D Action: draft-rsa… Keith Moore
- Re: Workload constants [was I-D Action: draft-rsa… Christian Huitema
- Re: Workload constants [was I-D Action: draft-rsa… Salz, Rich
- Re: Workload constants [was I-D Action: draft-rsa… Keith Moore
- Re: Workload constants [was I-D Action: draft-rsa… Colin Perkins
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- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Mary B
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Salz, Rich