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Re: Workload constants [was I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt]

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Fri, 22 October 2021 17:08 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>, Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, Barry Leiba <barryleiba=40computer.org@dmarc.ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: Workload constants [was I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt]
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>    There was a huge difference in another metric, the time from initial 
    draft to published RFC. Back in 1998, the median delay was one year. It 
    was already more than 3 years in 2008, and still is. Much of the delays 
    happen in the working group, from initial draft to last call.

So the common beliefs that things are taking longer is wrong (for the past 13 years!) and that the delays are because WG's are sending less-good documents to the IESG is wrong.  My theory for the possible increased mail traffic is that folks are doing more business between meetings, and the increased use of GitHub which increases volume because of increased participation.

Always good to have real numbers.

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