Re: Where are the places that block encrypted traffic?
Niels Dettenbach <nd@syndicat.com> Tue, 02 June 2015 08:52 UTC
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From: Niels Dettenbach <nd@syndicat.com>
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Subject: Re: Where are the places that block encrypted traffic?
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 10:52:53 +0200
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Am Dienstag, 2. Juni 2015, 07:34:33 schrieb Patrik Fältström: > Last time I encountered this was at Pain de Quotidien in Washington DC on > 17th street. > > And I discovered it when I saw my IMAP connection was hijacked. around five years ago in a Marriot Hotel in Canada (Hamilton / Ontario). IMAPs and POP3s was blocked, IMAP, POP3 and SMTP TLS ("inline") was blocked by a proxy. The proxy seemed to stay anywhere in the US. But after some fiddeling i was able to tunnel out there otherwise at that time... Don't know if it is the same today... -- --- Niels Dettenbach Syndicat IT & Internet http://www.syndicat.com PGP: https://syndicat.com/pub_key.asc ---
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