Re: IETF hotel selection mode and a proposal (was" Re: Hilton BA is Booked already?)

Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 17 December 2015 17:00 UTC

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> On Dec 17, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
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>> On 17/12/15 16:21, Adrian Farrel wrote:
>> Hopefully "perk" is not quite the intended word, but "necessary
>> convenience" might serve better. Although... How many IESG breakfasts
>> were there in Prague?
> 
> I think 3 incl. Sunday, but with a bunch of ADs at another brekkie
> thing one of the days (taking advantage of a cancelled IESG brekkie).
> 
>> And, as a member of NomCom I had breakfast meetings every day of the
>> week in Yokohama, but no preferential treatment.
> 
> Yeah, that seemed unfairish to me too.
> 
>> I agree that the I* needs to be around the meeting venue. The
>> Secretariat even more so.
>> 
>> But it wold be  useful thought experiment for them all to examine how
>> their weeks would be different if they had a 20 minute walk each way
>> each day.
> 
> Actually, the end of day in the meeting hotel is often more useful
> I think for bumping into I* folks after dinner. Or maybe I just
> hang around bars a lot:-)

I agree on this point.  I did try to stop at the bar areas in Prague to be available to chat... However, I really did enjoy my 20 minute walk each way.  This made sure that I saw the light of day and got a tiny bit of exercise.

For BA, my situation will be different and I plan to stay at the Hilton.  My reason is not meetings, but making sure my son-to-be will be able to eat.

We may want to think about preference and special requests that may be important for some attendees and give them a way to place advance requests if they have a special need for accommodations.

Best regards,
Kathleen 

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> S
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>> 
>> Adrian
>> 
>>> First meeting for IAB/IESG members during IETF week is 8am,
>>> possibly earlier.
>>> 
>>> My first meeting I have to be at is 9am on some days of the week.
>>> 
>>> Sure, I might arrange a breakfast meeting etc. But there is a big 
>>> difference between a meeting I arrange at my convenience where I 
>>> expect four or five people to be at and one that is set by others
>>> and will have two dozen people discussing something that is complex
>>> and not necessarily my stuff.
>>> 
>>> I am all for greater openness and accountability in IETF. But the 
>>> starting point for that would be recognizing that we do actually
>>> have a membership and officeholders should be accountable to it
>>> rather than petty attempts to strip officeholders of the only perk
>>> they get for doing the jobs.
>