Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-3777upd-eligibility-01.txt

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Fri, 17 August 2012 20:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-3777upd-eligibility-01.txt
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SM,

On Aug 17, 2012, at 1:44 PM, S Moonesamy wrote:

> Hi Bob,
> At 13:24 17-08-2012, Bob Hinden wrote:
>> Given what started as a simple change has turned into many changes (14 changed paragraphs by my count), I am starting to think that doing a RFC3777 update document would be a better approach.  Then it would be easy to look at a diff from RFC3777 and see all of the changes.
> 
> I thought about the update when I posted a related draft as minor changes look extensive due to the IAOC addition in various parts of the text.  I can post a draft which incorporates the changes from draft-leiba-3777upd-eligibility-01 to make the diff easier.
> 
> Would that help?


Yes, it would help for reviewing this draft, but it will still make it complicated for future noncom's to understand the rules.  A single document would be easier to understand.

I suppose an alternative would be to file an errata on RFC3777 that says something like add "IAOC" to everywhere in the document it says IESG, IAB, and ISOC Board of Trustees, and leave the specific changes as an excise to the reader.  :-)  

Bob