Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-retire-std1-00.txt> (Retirement of the "Internet Official Protocol Standards" Summary Document) to Best Current Practice
Pete Resnick <presnick@qti.qualcomm.com> Thu, 05 September 2013 22:24 UTC
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Subject: Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-retire-std1-00.txt> (Retirement of the "Internet Official Protocol Standards" Summary Document) to Best Current Practice
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On 9/5/13 2:45 PM, Scott O Bradner wrote: > looks good to me except that maybe using the IETF Announce list rather than > IESG minutes as the publication of record > The only reason I went with the IESG minutes is because they do state the "pending" actions too, as well as the completed ones, which the IETF Announce list does not. For instance, the IESG minutes say things like: "The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by..." "The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by..." "The document was deferred to the next teleconference by..." The minutes also of course reflect all of the approvals. So they do seem to more completely replace what that paragraph as talking about. And we have archives of IESG minutes back to 1991; we've only got IETF Announce back to 2004. I'm not personally committed to going one way or the other. The minutes just seemed to me the more complete record. pr -- Pete Resnick<http://www.qualcomm.com/~presnick/> Qualcomm Technologies, Inc. - +1 (858)651-4478
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-retire-std1-00.txt>… Bradner, Scott
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-retire-std1-00.txt>… Pete Resnick
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-retire-std1-00.txt>… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-retire-std1-00.txt>… Pete Resnick
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-retire-std1-00.txt>… Bradner, Scott
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-retire-std1-00.txt>… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-retire-std1-00.txt>… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-retire-std1-00.txt>… Pete Resnick
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-retire-std1-00.txt>… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-retire-std1-00.txt>… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-retire-std1-00.txt>… SM
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-retire-std1-00.txt>… Pete Resnick
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-retire-std1-00.txt>… Pete Resnick
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-retire-std1-00.txt>… Scott O Bradner
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-retire-std1-00.txt>… Pete Resnick
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-retire-std1-00.txt>… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-retire-std1-00.txt>… Jari Arkko
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-retire-std1-00.txt>… SM
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-retire-std1-00.txt>… John C Klensin