Re: 10 a.m.
Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Mon, 11 July 2016 13:55 UTC
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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 06:54:18 -0700
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Subject: Re: 10 a.m.
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My experience of this was that I heard at the plenary that it was popular and that we would try it again, but did not hear a proposal for when (although I may be misremembering that). And then when I found out about it on the agenda, it was news to me. And I'd bought my tickets assuming a 9am meeting start time and assuming I wouldn't be able to make the last meeting on Friday, and then realized I wouldn't be able to stay for the whole first meeting either. So on the one hand, I think this was pre-discussed. But on the other hand, the messaging wasn't sufficiently effective _for me_. I just looked in the registration announcement and the "meeting information" announcement, and there's nothing there. The first I noticed it was when I looked at the preliminary agenda. I am painfully well acquainted with the vicissitudes of IESG life, so I feel it would be churlish to point fingers, but I will say that if we do this again, the information should be at the top of both those announcements in large, friendly letters. On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 6:49 AM, Tim Chown <tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote: > Hi, > > I share Brian’s concern on this. > > On 11 Jul 2016, at 14:10, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote: > > Brian, > > In Buenos Aires, the dinner times are substantially later and the schedule > was > adjusted to accommodate local conditions. There was a lot of positive > feedback > about the later starting time. > > > Was this one of the questions in the post-meeting survey, and if so what > was the result? > > I'm sure you remember the Paris meeting where the IETF tried a different > evening > schedule & it was very popular. > > So, in response to the feedback and as an experiment, the starting time is > later. > I believe Alexa included that this was an experiment in announcements. > > > I’m not against experiments, but I don’t recall any open list discussion > on conducting it, which would have been nice to have, or did that happen? > > Tim > > Regards, > Alia > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Brian E Carpenter < > brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Where do I find the discussion and subsequent rough consensus to switch >> the >> starting time of the IETF f2f meeting days to 10 a.m.? >> >> As far as I'm concerned that is a big mistake, wasting an hour every day >> and making it (even more) difficult to relax in the evenings. >> >> (If there is some local peculiarity in Buenos Aires and Berlin that makes >> this more practical, it would be interesting to know.) >> >> Regards >> Brian >> >> > >
- Re: 10 a.m. Alia Atlas
- Re: 10 a.m. Ted Lemon
- Re: 10 a.m. Ted Lemon
- Re: 10 a.m. Alia Atlas
- Re: 10 a.m. Brian E Carpenter
- Re: 10 a.m. Alia Atlas
- Re: 10 a.m. Stewart Bryant
- Re: 10 a.m. Jared Mauch
- Re: 10 a.m. Theodore V Faber
- Re: 10 a.m. Ted Lemon
- Re: 10 a.m. Alia Atlas
- Re: 10 a.m. Dave Crocker
- Re: 10 a.m. Ted Lemon
- Re: 10 a.m. Tim Chown
- Re: 10 a.m. Alia Atlas
- Re: 10 a.m. Jari Arkko
- Re: 10 a.m. Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: 10 a.m. Ted Lemon
- Re: 10 a.m. Dave Crocker
- Re: 10 a.m. Carsten Bormann
- Re: 10 a.m. Tim Chown
- Fwd: Re: 10 a.m. Sandy Wills
- Re: 10 a.m. Dave Crocker
- Re: 10 a.m. Ted Lemon
- Re: 10 a.m. Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: 10 a.m. Tim Chown
- Re: 10 a.m. John C Klensin
- Re: 10 a.m. Tim Chown
- Re: 10 a.m. Jari Arkko
- 10 a.m. Brian E Carpenter
- Re: 10 a.m. Dave Crocker
- Re: 10 a.m. Michael StJohns
- Re: 10 a.m. John C Klensin