Re: 10 a.m.

[Alia Atlas <[e-mail]>]

Brian,

My point with the Paris meeting was that after IETF 63, folks really liked
not
having to come back to an evening session - and now we don't.

Personally, I'm up late anyway chatting - so getting an extra hour to sleep
was
quite nice.

Alia

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Brian E Carpenter <
[e-mail]> wrote:

> Hi Alia, thanks for responding.
> On 12/07/2016 01:10, Alia Atlas wrote:
> > Brian,
> >
> > In Buenos Aires, the dinner times are substantially later and the
> schedule was
> > adjusted to accommodate local conditions.
>
> Yes, I did wonder about that (and I remember non-IETF meetings in Portugal
> and Spain where a similar schedule shift would have been appropriate)
>
> > There was a lot of positive feedback
> > about the later starting time.
>
> Beats me. As I said, from my PoV it is an hour wasted each day. (I
> understand
> that many people have breakfast meetings. I have at least three myself.
> But they're simply going to start an hour later; no win there.)
>
> > I'm sure you remember the Paris meeting where the IETF tried a different
> evening
> > schedule & it was very popular.
>
> Not sure which Paris meeting you're thinking of, but I do recall that
> for IETF 63 we completely rejigged the traditional schedule to move the
> meal breaks an hour later, but still starting at 9. That was designed to
> match restaurant serving hours in Paris. You can see that schedule at
> https://www.ietf.org/meeting/63/agenda-overview.html. iirc it worked
> reasonably well.
>
> > So, in response to the feedback and as an experiment, the starting time
> is later.
> > I believe Alexa included that this was an experiment in announcements.
>
> Yes, but as others have pointed out that was weeks after many people made
> their travel bookings. (Personally that isn't an issue.)
>
> Well, I'll give it a try ;-)
>
> Regards
>    Brian
>
> >
> > Regards,
> > Alia
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Brian E Carpenter <
> > [e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Where do I find the discussion and subsequent rough consensus to switch
> the
> >> starting time of the IETF f2f meeting days to 10 a.m.?
> >>
> >> As far as I'm concerned that is a big mistake, wasting an hour every day
> >> and making it (even more) difficult to relax in the evenings.
> >>
> >> (If there is some local peculiarity in Buenos Aires and Berlin that
> makes
> >> this more practical, it would be interesting to know.)
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>    Brian
> >>
> >>
> >
>