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Re: Proposed Statement on "HTTPS everywhere for the IETF"

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Subject: Re: Proposed Statement on "HTTPS everywhere for the IETF"
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Stewart Bryant" <stbryant@cisco.com>
To: <ietf@ietf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 10:20 AM
> On 02/06/2015 19:05, Joe Touch wrote:
> >
> > On 6/2/2015 11:02 AM, Ted Lemon wrote:
> >> On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> wrote:
> >>> Leaving out the have-nots - or those whose access is blocked by
others
> >>> when content cannot be scanned - isn't moving forward.
> >> That would certainly be a problem if the consensus were not to
> >> provide both a secure and an, as you call it, "open" version of all
IETF documents.
> > The IETF is more than just the documents.
> >
> > All IETF content should be accessible via non-secure means.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> s/should/MUST/

Which I don't think is the case at present.

I have never managed to get
http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
to resolve to anything other than a blank screen.
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
works as I would expect it to.

Information on other mailing lists and their archives that I look at I
can access with http: (even if the IETF website first offers me https:).

Tom Petch

> Stewart
>

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