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Re: SV: Diversity and offensive terminology in RFCs

Jaap Akkerhuis <jaap@NLnetLabs.nl> Thu, 20 September 2018 13:22 UTC

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To: Anne-Marie Eklund-Löwinder <anne-marie.eklund-lowinder@iis.se>
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Subject: Re: SV: Diversity and offensive terminology in RFCs
From: Jaap Akkerhuis <jaap@NLnetLabs.nl>
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Comments: In-reply-to Anne-Marie Eklund-Löwinder <anne-marie.eklund-lowinder@iis.se> message dated "Thu, 20 Sep 2018 12:09:06 -0000."
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 Anne-Marie Eklund-Löwinder writes:

 > SKIP
 >
 > That said, I can't really see how the term "Man-in-the-middle" can be offensive.
 >

RFC 3761 (ENUM), 3833 (DNS), 6810 6811 8210 (RPKI), 7909 (RPSL)
uses about "monkey-in-the-middle".

PS. These are not related to "The Infinite Monkey Protocol Suite
(IMPS), RFC 2795.

	jaap

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