Re: [Internetgovtech] draft-iab-iana-framework-02 (was Re: IANA changes
Jefsey <jefsey@jefsey.com> Wed, 02 April 2014 18:00 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Internetgovtech] draft-iab-iana-framework-02 (was Re: IANA changes
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At 10:29 02/04/2014, Olaf Kolkman wrote: >On 2 apr. 2014, at 07:28, Abdussalam Baryun ><<mailto:abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> wrote: >In all honesty, with this document I've have shifted between forward >thinking and setting a baseline for discussion, currently the >document is more about the latter. >> >>I will review the draft and comment here, hope that is related to >>list purpose. Thanks. >Yes, it is related to the list. Thanks for willing to spend cycles. Olaf, one of the concern that is alluded to in Abdussalam's mail is the difficulty to understand where (and therefore what) is the action and target, with so many lists. The IETF is an ISOC affiliate. ISOC has a list called "IANAxfer". I think we would need to know if one of the options that is investigated is the transfer back/consolidation of the IANA as an ISOC affiliate. I do not advocate it, but I acknowledge that the ISOC consistency and legitimacy in terms of international trust are probably better than ICANN. Also, on a (different?) issue, if you consider the Contributors and Acknowledgemetns list, I do not note any citizen from the countries which have signed the WCIT. My understanding is that, the WCIT disagreement being over the internet, the NTIA move is a step toward a compromise acceptable on both sides. Any reach out idea into that direction? I ask myself if that issue is really different because ISOC has national chapters, i.e. IETF has direct colleagues on both "sides". Best jfc
- Re: [Internetgovtech] draft-iab-iana-framework-02… Olaf Kolkman
- [Internetgovtech] draft-iab-iana-framework-02 (wa… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [Internetgovtech] draft-iab-iana-framework-02… Jefsey
- Re: [Internetgovtech] draft-iab-iana-framework-02… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [Internetgovtech] draft-iab-iana-framework-02… Olaf Kolkman
- Re: [Internetgovtech] draft-iab-iana-framework-02… Jefsey
- Re: [Internetgovtech] draft-iab-iana-framework-02… Jefsey
- Re: [Internetgovtech] draft-iab-iana-framework-02… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [Internetgovtech] draft-iab-iana-framework-02… Jefsey
- [Internetgovtech] draft-iab-iana-framework-02 (wa… Jefsey
- Re: [Internetgovtech] draft-iab-iana-framework-02… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [Internetgovtech] draft-iab-iana-framework-02… Jefsey
- Re: [Internetgovtech] draft-iab-iana-framework-02… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [Internetgovtech] draft-iab-iana-framework-02… Jefsey