Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions
wangyali <wangyali11@huawei.com> Thu, 18 June 2020 06:41 UTC
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From: wangyali <wangyali11@huawei.com>
To: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions
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Hi Greg, Glad to receive your response. Please see inline <Yali>. From: Greg Mirsky [mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:50 AM To: wangyali <wangyali11@huawei.com> Cc: ippm@ietf.org; xiao.min2@zte.com.cn Subject: Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Hi Yali, firstly, many thanks from all the authors for volunteering as the Shepherd for this document. Secondly, I apologize for such a late proposal to refine the update to your question. You've asked: 1. In the draft, I confused a sentence that said ‘The Session-Sender MUST NOT stop the session if it receives a zeroed SSID field.’ If a STAMP Session-Reflector that does not support this specification and return the zeroed SSID field in the reflected STAMP test packet, the STAMP Session-Sender MUST stop the session. I assume there’s a edit error. We've agreed to change s/MUST NOT/MUST/. After more thoughts and discussions among the authors, we would ask you and the WG to consider the change that, in our view, will make the behavior of a Session-Sender in this scenario more flexible: <Yali> In deed, it becomes more flexible in this scenario. I’d suggest to explicitly point out all of actions the Session-Sender should take when it does not stop the session, such as sending a base STAMP-Test packet [RFC8762], etc. Please take following Text into consideration. OLD TEXT: The Session-Sender MUST stop the session if it receives a zeroed SSID field. NEW TEXT: The Session-Sender MAY stop the session if it receives a zeroed SSID field. An implementation of a Session-Sender MUST support control of its behavior in such a scenario. <Yali> The Session-Sender MAY stop the session if it receives a zeroed SSID field. An implementation of a Session-Sender MUST support control of its behavior in such a scenario. If the session is not stopped, the Session-Sender MAY send a base STAMP-Test packet [RFC8762]. I greatly appreciate your comments, questions. Regards, Greg On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 1:40 AM wangyali <wangyali11@huawei.com<mailto:wangyali11@huawei.com>> wrote: Hi authors and IPPM, I support its publication. But after reading, I have two questions and comments as follows: 1. In the draft, I confused a sentence that said ‘The Session-Sender MUST NOT stop the session if it receives a zeroed SSID field.’ If a STAMP Session-Reflector that does not support this specification and return the zeroed SSID field in the reflected STAMP test packet, the STAMP Session-Sender MUST stop the session. I assume there’s a edit error. 2. Does the TLV field shown in figure 1 indicate that the STAMP Session-Sender test packet with TLV in unauthenticated mode can contains one or more TLVs defined in this draft? I suggest to give an illustration about the TLV field in the test packet and revise TLV field in figure 1 that is not very clear. Best regards, Yali From: ippm [mailto:ippm-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:ippm-bounces@ietf.org>] On Behalf Of Ian Swett Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 5:26 AM To: IETF IPPM WG (ippm@ietf.org<mailto:ippm@ietf.org>) <ippm@ietf.org<mailto:ippm@ietf.org>> Subject: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Hi IPPM, At our virtual interim meeting, we decided draft-ietf-ippm-stamp-option-tlv was ready for last call. This email starts a two-week WGLC for this draft. The latest version can be found here: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ippm-stamp-option-tlv-04 This last call will end on Monday, June 8th. Please reply to ippm@ietf.org<mailto:ippm@ietf.org> with your reviews and comments. Thanks, Ian & Tommy
- [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Ian Swett
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Tommy Pauly
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Adi Masputra
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Tianran Zhou
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions xiao.min2
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Giuseppe Fioccola
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Henrik Nydell
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Ernesto Ruffini
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Foote, Footer (Nokia - CA)
- [ippm] 答复: WGLC for STAMP Extensions Songyuezhong (songyuezhong, IP technology Research Dept)
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions wangyali
- Re: [ippm] 答复: WGLC for STAMP Extensions Henrik Nydell
- Re: [ippm] 答复: WGLC for STAMP Extensions Greg Mirsky
- [ippm] 答复: 答复: WGLC for STAMP Extensions Songyuezhong (songyuezhong, IP technology Research Dept)
- Re: [ippm] 答复: WGLC for STAMP Extensions Greg Mirsky
- [ippm] 答复: 答复: WGLC for STAMP Extensions Songyuezhong (songyuezhong, IP technology Research Dept)
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Rakesh Gandhi
- Re: [ippm] 答复: WGLC for STAMP Extensions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Ian Swett
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Rakesh Gandhi
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Rakesh Gandhi
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Rakesh Gandhi (rgandhi)
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Rakesh Gandhi
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Rakesh Gandhi
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions wangyali
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Greg Mirsky
- [ippm] 答复: WGLC for STAMP Extensions wangyali
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions wangyali
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [ippm] WGLC for STAMP Extensions wangyali