Re: 6MAN Adoption call on raft-chakrabarti-nordmark-6man-efficient-nd-04
Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> Tue, 07 January 2014 08:46 UTC
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Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2014 09:45:46 +0100
From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
To: Mark ZZZ Smith <markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Re: 6MAN Adoption call on raft-chakrabarti-nordmark-6man-efficient-nd-04
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On Fri, 20 Dec 2013, Mark ZZZ Smith wrote: > Perhaps it might be better to treat the link as an NBMA subnet, and use > RFC2491 "IPv6 over Non-Broadcast Multiple Access (NBMA) networks" to > eliminate all multicasts (including ND, MLD and application), except > perhaps RAs with a flag that indicate the link is operating in NBMA > mode (with RA timers larger than defaults - IIRC, the max router age > value is 90 minutes, so unsolicited RAs can be around 30 minutes apart)? I have had similar thoughts. I would like to have mode where no discovery is done at all anymore, and in order to support legacy hosts, one way of doing that would be: Legacy hosts see RAs with M=1, and they are handed address using DHCPv6 IA_NA if they ask for it. They will not see any on-link prefix, and will send all traffic through the router. The router will install ND entry based on lifetime of the DHCPv6 IA_NA. EAH will be able to do autoconfig by means of seeing an on-link /64 that is in a RA option that differs in a way that legacy hosts won't use it (preferrably also just unicasted to EAH by the router in response to RS). EAH use ARO to register their address just as in the draft. If the router gets a packet to an address it doesn't have in the ND table, it just drops the packet. All traffic on the LAN is routed through the router, and optionally it can choose to send unicast redirects if it feels traffic is to hosts in the same L2 network. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
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- RE: 6MAN Adoption call on raft-chakrabarti-nordma… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: 6MAN Adoption call on raft-chakrabarti-nordma… Acee Lindem
- RE: 6MAN Adoption call on raft-chakrabarti-nordma… Samita Chakrabarti
- Re: 6MAN Adoption call on raft-chakrabarti-nordma… Mark ZZZ Smith
- Re: 6MAN Adoption call on raft-chakrabarti-nordma… Mikael Abrahamsson
- RE: 6MAN Adoption call on raft-chakrabarti-nordma… Samita Chakrabarti
- Re: 6MAN Adoption call on raft-chakrabarti-nordma… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: 6MAN Adoption call on raft-chakrabarti-nordma… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: 6MAN Adoption call on raft-chakrabarti-nordma… Lorenzo Colitti
- RE: 6MAN Adoption call on raft-chakrabarti-nordma… Samita Chakrabarti
- Re: 6MAN Adoption call on raft-chakrabarti-nordma… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: 6MAN Adoption call on raft-chakrabarti-nordma… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: 6MAN Adoption call on raft-chakrabarti-nordma… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: 6MAN Adoption call on raft-chakrabarti-nordma… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: 6MAN Adoption call on raft-chakrabarti-nordma… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: 6MAN Adoption call on raft-chakrabarti-nordma… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: 6MAN Adoption call on raft-chakrabarti-nordma… Ole Troan
- Re: 6MAN Adoption call on raft-chakrabarti-nordma… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: 6MAN Adoption call on raft-chakrabarti-nordma… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: 6MAN Adoption call on raft-chakrabarti-nordma… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: 6MAN Adoption call on raft-chakrabarti-nordma… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: 6MAN Adoption call on raft-chakrabarti-nordma… Lorenzo Colitti
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