Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt

Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Thu, 02 March 2017 19:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt
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Le 02/03/2017 à 19:54, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ a écrit :
> Actually, is not correct that most use /56 for residential.
>
>> From my last review of the survey, worldwide, 22% use /48, 35% use
>> /56, but there is a lot of ISPs (33%) doing it wrong and using /64,
>> which of course, we are explaining them that is wrong. 10% use
>> “other” sizes.

So how comes that households can get /56s but smartphones no?

Really there must be something there hidden.

Alex

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> Full details at:
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> https://labs.ripe.net/Members/jordipaletm/results-of-the-ipv6-deployment-survey
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>  Saludos, Jordi
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>
> -----Mensaje original----- De: ipv6 <ipv6-bounces@ietf.org>; en nombre
> de Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>; Organización: People's Front
> Against WWW Responder a: <swmike@swm.pp.se>; Fecha: jueves, 2 de marzo
> de 2017, 19:33 Para: Alexandre Petrescu
> <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>; CC: <ipv6@ietf.org>; Asunto: Re:
> Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt
>
> On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, Alexandre Petrescu wrote:
>
>> YEs yes, but how much of that /44 is covering the end-users and how
>> much is reserved for interconnnections?
>
> Nothing. It's /44 to the GGSN/SPGW.
>
>> Ah great, but I guess few cellular operators (if any?) are LIRs.
>> Or maybe that's true and I didnt know.
>
> You don't know.
>
>> If all this were that simple and clearcut - there are enough /64s
>> out there - then why operators only assign one per one end user?
>
> Because DHCPv6-PD hasn't been implemented in mobile networks yet
> (that I know of). So that's all they can do per 3GPP standards.
>
> Residential rollouts, most use /56 per customer.
>
>> From the RIRs, you can without further justification get /48 per
>> "site",
> so if you show up to RIR and you're LIR and you say "hello, I have 40
>  million customers and I want to give each customer a /48" then
> they'll give you a /22 most likely. You're perfectly within your
> right as an operator to deploy /48 per customer per current RIR rules
> that I am aware of.
>
> -- Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se
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