Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt

Christopher Morrow <christopher.morrow@gmail.com> Fri, 24 February 2017 03:19 UTC

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From: Christopher Morrow <christopher.morrow@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 22:19:24 -0500
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Subject: Re: Objection to draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt
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picking out one messge, not particularly picking ON one message...

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:57 PM, james woodyatt <jhw@google.com> wrote:

> On Feb 23, 2017, at 05:40, Peter Hessler <phessler@theapt.org> wrote:
> >
> > Restricting all subnets to The One True Size(tm) of /64 is utterly
> > ridiculous.  Sure, that may be an artificial limitation of SLAAC and
> > various other technologies, but *those* can have limitations.
> >
> > Limiting it inside the entire specification is even stupider of an idea
> > than still supporting Classful networks.
> > […]
>
> It would help if those objecting to the promotion of RFC 4291 to Standard,
> unless the requirement for subnet prefixes to be generally /64 (except
> where noted by standards track documents), would please remember that SLAAC
> is only one of several technologies dependent on it. That’s why this draft
> now includes a reference to RFC 7421, which lists a non-exhaustive list of
> several things that are broken on subnets where prefixes longer than /64
> are used.
>
>
there seems to be a general sense, in reading the many threads now about
this -bis draft, that we can only have one way. In the proposed changed
text, ~150 messages back and 2 threads over, there was the callout for
applications which require 64bit subnet masks ALONG with "if you really
know what you are doing, feel free to use a different subnet mask".

I feel like folk are stuck in the 1 or the other camp, and that isn't
helpful to this discussion.

Why can't we have both?

As  to age of text and other things, I look at this -bis and the review
here as the final step to making 'ipv6' a real standard and not a 'proposed
standard' correct? So before we stamp things 'DONE' making sure all eyes
are dotted and tees are crossed surely seems sane and rational.

-chris