Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt>
David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu> Mon, 24 July 2017 19:43 UTC
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From: David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu>
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 14:43:47 -0500
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Subject: Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt>
To: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@boeing.com>
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On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 1:44 PM, Manfredi, Albert E < albert.e.manfredi@boeing.com> wrote: > Oh, on the IID length, as far as I can tell, we have fairly much agreed > that SLAAC should insist on 64 bit IIDs, and as written, RFC 4193 clearly > mandates 64-bit IIDs for ULAs, in its current incarnation. What? Yes it says they are 64bits, but it is just referencing RFC 3513, which is what I would expect it to do, which is the predecessor of RFC 4291. If you think RFC 4291 is really saying SLAAC IIDs are 64 bits then so is RFC 3513 and RFC 4193 too. > Even after EUI-64 has been deprecated, the prefix described for ULAs is > going to be 64 bits. For all other examples of addresses, the length > restriction doesn't need to be stated, however all the other "properties" > of predictability and lifetime should still be a consideration. > > >> "Interface Identifiers are 64 bits long when used for Stateless > >> Address Autoconfiguration (SLAAC) [RFC4862]." > > >> Who here could not live with that? > > Works for me. > > Bert > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================
- <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Bob Hinden
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> David Farmer
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Bob Hinden
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> David Farmer
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Philip Homburg
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Brian E Carpenter
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> David Farmer
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Philip Homburg
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Philip Homburg
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Mark Smith
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> 神明達哉
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> David Farmer
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Brian E Carpenter
- RE: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Templin, Fred L
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Brian E Carpenter
- RE: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Templin, Fred L
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Mark Smith
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Brian E Carpenter
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Mark Smith
- RE: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Templin, Fred L
- RE: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Templin, Fred L
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> David Farmer
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> james woodyatt
- RE: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Brian E Carpenter
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> james woodyatt
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Brian E Carpenter
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> james woodyatt
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> David Farmer
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Nick Hilliard
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> 神明達哉
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Brian E Carpenter
- RE: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Brian E Carpenter
- RE: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> 神明達哉
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Philip Homburg
- RE: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Brian E Carpenter
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Philip Homburg
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Philip Homburg
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Brian E Carpenter
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> David Farmer
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> David Farmer
- RE: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Manfredi, Albert E
- RE: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Brian E Carpenter
- RE: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Brian E Carpenter
- RE: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> t.petch
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Philip Homburg
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Philip Homburg
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> David Farmer
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> David Farmer
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> james woodyatt
- RE: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> 神明達哉
- RE: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> David Farmer
- RE: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> sthaug
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> DY Kim
- Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> DY Kim
- RE: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt> Mark Smith