RE: I-D Action: draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-09.txt

Hi all,
Sometimes, IPv6 Links are connected into
a "single entity" (except from Proxy-ND RFC 4389) or
a Multi-Link Subnet (from RFC 8929) or
something without a name in the draft-ietf-bess-evpn-proxy-arp-nd-13

And then IP Prefix is attached to this structure.
It is not good that the IP prefix is attached to the structure that does not have the name!

There are 2 options here:
1. call it the "IPv6 link" too. Probably not good, because ND messages are not transparent between L2 domains in all such solutions.
2. give it the name. draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-09 proposes to call it MLSN. Why not?

On the broad scope, the IP prefix is attached not to the link, but to the entity at the next layer of hierarchy. It should be somehow reflected in standards.

PS: This is the biggest thing that I see in draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-09
Eduard
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From: ipv6 [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian E Carpenter
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 12:55 AM
To: 6man <ipv6@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-09.txt

Hi,

IMHO this draft now includes some important new material, namely definitions of two terms "IP Link" and "IP Subnet" (at https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-09.html#name-terminology ). While I'm not sure yet that I completely agree with the text, I think the topic is very important, since the previous doctrine has effectively been that all "links" behave like Ethernet. And, by the way, the socket API incorporates that doctrine.

(This is something that gave us quite a lot of angst in ANIMA, especially in clarifying the "link" model in the Autonomic Control Plane, since we depend on link-local multicast.)

Regards
   Brian

On 18-May-21 02:45, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> 
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
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> 
>         Title           : IPv6 Neighbor Discovery on Wireless Networks
>         Author          : Pascal Thubert
> 	Filename        : draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-09.txt
> 	Pages           : 25
> 	Date            : 2021-05-17
> 
> Abstract:
>    This document describes how the original IPv6 Neighbor Discovery and
>    Wireless ND (WiND) can be applied on various abstractions of wireless
>    media.
> 
> 
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless
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