RE: I-D Action: draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-09.txt

["Templin (US), Fred L" <[e-mail]>]

It is premature to propose adoption without first considering the alternative:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-templin-6man-aero/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-templin-6man-omni/

Fred

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ipv6 [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Vasilenko Eduard
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 9:20 AM
> To: 6man <[e-mail]>
> Subject: RE: I-D Action: draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-09.txt
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> Current ND is not compatible with any Wireless, especially for low power or roaming scenarios. Hence, the proper discussion would be
> helpful.
> Hence, I propose to adopt draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless in 6man.
> Eduard
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ipv6 [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 10:00 AM
> To: Brian E Carpenter <[e-mail]>; 6man <[e-mail]>
> Subject: RE: I-D Action: draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-09.txt
> 
> Many thanks Brian;
> 
> Though writing code and deploying networks is core to many of us, we also end up teaching, writing papers and publishing informational
> documents in other bodies such as ETSI. It was during a discussion for an ETSI doc that we realized we were missing those definitions.
> 
> But above there's a need to regain a degree of freedom in how we use links and subnets. The lack of definitions leads to overloading and
> confusion, which in turn leads to confine us within the commonly understood model that is ethernet.
> 
> As we separate the definition of the IP link from that of the lower layer, and separate the definition of subnet from that of IPv4, we regain
> a degree of freedom that enables us to build IPv6 abstractions over any new medium and build subnets of any size and shape.
> 
> Happy to discuss the exact terms of the definitions.
> 
> Keep safe,
> 
> 
> Pascal
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ipv6 <[e-mail]> On Behalf Of Brian E Carpenter
> > Sent: lundi 17 mai 2021 23:55
> > To: 6man <[e-mail]>
> > Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-09.txt
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > IMHO this draft now includes some important new material, namely
> > definitions of two terms "IP Link" and "IP Subnet" (at
> > https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-
> > 09.html#name-terminology ). While I'm not sure yet that I completely
> > agree with the text, I think the topic is very important, since the
> > previous doctrine has effectively been that all "links" behave like
> > Ethernet. And, by the way, the socket API incorporates that doctrine.
> >
> > (This is something that gave us quite a lot of angst in ANIMA,
> > especially in clarifying the "link" model in the Autonomic Control
> > Plane, since we depend on link-local multicast.)
> >
> > Regards
> >    Brian
> >
> > On 18-May-21 02:45, [e-mail] wrote:
> > >
> > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> > directories.
> > >
> > >
> > >         Title           : IPv6 Neighbor Discovery on Wireless Networks
> > >         Author          : Pascal Thubert
> > > 	Filename        : draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-09.txt
> > > 	Pages           : 25
> > > 	Date            : 2021-05-17
> > >
> > > Abstract:
> > >    This document describes how the original IPv6 Neighbor Discovery
> > and
> > >    Wireless ND (WiND) can be applied on various abstractions of
> > wireless
> > >    media.
> > >
> > >
> > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wirele
> > > ss
> > > /
> > >
> > > There is also an HTML version available at:
> > > https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireles
> > > s-
> > > 09.html
> > >
> > > A diff from the previous version is available at:
> > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wirel
> > > es
> > > s-09
> > >
> > >
> > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
> > > submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at
> > tools.ietf.org.
> > >
> > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
> > >
> > >
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