Re: Automatically connecting to stub networks...

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Thu, 03 December 2020 16:22 UTC

Return-Path: <mellon@fugue.com>
X-Original-To: ipv6@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ipv6@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83EC3A0EF3 for <ipv6@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 3 Dec 2020 08:22:22 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.897
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_DNS_FOR_FROM=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=fugue-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8SQaQ8uYNOEl for <ipv6@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 3 Dec 2020 08:22:20 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-qk1-x72c.google.com (mail-qk1-x72c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::72c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D7AA3A0E71 for <6man@ietf.org>; Thu, 3 Dec 2020 08:22:20 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail-qk1-x72c.google.com with SMTP id q5so2550575qkc.12 for <6man@ietf.org>; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 08:22:20 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fugue-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:in-reply-to:cc:to :references; bh=Zj3OaY/0YkKg3dlGRyn6Kv0f5b9l966pjRc1JNWqBq0=; b=XzP3xdgpU/ut20elDKmhr4Q2HGarDrBHyVbd5voIMIXxwqDaDG/sR/oi+UJBvdFrNK FpASLM3kBRfBumJUiFXh98P7IBnOVe3uQ7A/ayH5lRMlM2KdAmtfM/yk6gi0svufUyKF tK4wGecURwfFXmhuwNKXiOn3qcReVCXg9Y9wLujfp6xsQ5dtOi+Vk6nrppMO1MmPZZPE I/78zzEt1oxigBfVLkhjcKc5UD5R+AniXMFfjjeySU9GOjr4j+11+9/1MMuXx8R4I5Su c2p/aROBWYgTcP1Hggo670PdOghEnw4D2RoNXLI1pIZqRPRjZqYtwvMYt5Ksa4U4VBQS 3n9w==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :in-reply-to:cc:to:references; bh=Zj3OaY/0YkKg3dlGRyn6Kv0f5b9l966pjRc1JNWqBq0=; b=hzKCmzihF2zyoA+v8i8FnOp+Hf9QZVSTd6FGYJa6264yIPzuhSapTq0XLeWuw2xg3Z l1bBkiWk4fdk0hLwAc8r2zbpR4vI1vXS51m+4yD5ocot/x0LioQcE+AZU49V+hHJ88AM xVVj3oWy4Fl669n4A9vR+y032aJUtmdBeS4qbvkyrEVNc6DP618m6RPYNzULz8Ijc13G 1iVnZPZkgYqb/J55F+lVYYctm1TTEc5v8vhegzvy8bwwTyKlNU9JnnHxyeW/PBITSqVT Rr/gOvxvic6RSQ6ge4j/RIp6I7QmtPLBn3ufzDXrg6wLhmGPbNRtTPZC/GYNFEX4wlho sIMA==
X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530amqKUmDG9duz9U/miDocNkdGqECENvlIH+G4iThIH8RdUxVxb hYalXe54hE4NfYwhMM5GYe7bLw==
X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxHsUwP1f2a7shSynXtRuiU82jHmQUCDZq7NFoL/MgWotA0ei/jr8+7sZDFrTa3dBuaEj0K5A==
X-Received: by 2002:a37:404d:: with SMTP id n74mr3673868qka.25.1607012539516; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 08:22:19 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mithrandir.lan (c-24-91-177-160.hsd1.nh.comcast.net. [24.91.177.160]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y1sm1899460qky.63.2020.12.03.08.22.18 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 03 Dec 2020 08:22:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
Message-Id: <5143DC1F-321C-4FCD-9B56-372E492D4CDD@fugue.com>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E0BAC39C-0DF4-44E6-AD1A-3BE9040D5026"
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.40.0.2.32\))
Subject: Re: Automatically connecting to stub networks...
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2020 11:22:16 -0500
In-Reply-To: <22203.1607003159@localhost>
Cc: 6MAN <6man@ietf.org>
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
References: <DA9CEF7E-44EA-44B0-AF07-2DAC4D29A59F@fugue.com> <59aeb842c7534e5ab24cde0426b5a4c9@huawei.com> <22203.1607003159@localhost>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.40.0.2.32)
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipv6/lmzMhtb4GcHklSnoi_dPw_bozDM>
X-BeenThere: ipv6@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: "IPv6 Maintenance Working Group \(6man\)" <ipv6.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ipv6>, <mailto:ipv6-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ipv6/>
List-Post: <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ipv6-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6>, <mailto:ipv6-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2020 16:22:23 -0000

On Dec 3, 2020, at 8:45 AM, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:
> I don't understand how RFC7078 helps, given that a postulate of the
> stub-network is that the home/enterprise DHCPv6-server is not capable of
> being aware of the stub-network.

In order to get a prefix to advertise on the stub network, DHCPv6-PD would work. Of course, no host on the stub network is ever going to do DHCPv6-PD, or if they do they’ll fail, but the draft does in that sense rely on DHCPv6-PD for the globally addressable prefix use case.