RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86
"Hosnieh Rafiee" <ietf@rozanak.com> Tue, 05 March 2013 19:29 UTC
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From: Hosnieh Rafiee <ietf@rozanak.com>
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Subject: RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 20:28:45 +0100
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> SASS is similar, but uses a different algorithm, and you don't have to recalculate each time you move. For nodes that don't move, it seems identical. This is not true. I think that you have confused this draft with another draft that was not about security but had the title "Stable Privacy Addresses". Otherwise you are saying that you do not want to observe privacy at all. The nodes' IP addresses are valid for a certain period of time which is dependent on the network policy in vogue. In the draft, in several sections, the need to change the IP address for privacy is emphasized. It seems that I have to upload the latest version of my draft to a website where others can read it. Thank you, Hosnieh -----Original Message----- From: ipv6-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Michael Richardson Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 7:48 PM To: Karl Auer Cc: ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 >>>>> "Karl" == Karl Auer <kauer@biplane.com.au> writes: Karl> On Mon, 2013-03-04 at 16:02 -0800, Bob Hinden wrote: >> A Simple Secure Addressing Generation Scheme for IPv6 >> AutoConfiguration draft-rafiee-6man-ssas-01.txt [...] >> DHCPv6/SLAAC Address Configuration Interaction Problem Statement >> draft-liu-bonica-dhcpv6-slaac-problem-01.txt >> >> We did not think there had been enough discussion or interest on >> the w.g. list to guarantee a speaking slot. We allocated short >> slots at the end of the session if there is time before the >> meeting ends. If anyone (other than the authors) think one of >> these should be given more time, please speak up. Karl> For what it's worth it seems to me that there is a gaping hole Karl> around securing ND. IPSec is obviously ridiculous, SEND is Karl> only marginally less ridiculous. Maybe SSAS is a way forward? SEND looked at AH and realized that it couldn't be used, so IPsec is a non-starter. I'd like to know what you know about SEND that the SEND WG didn't... SASS is similar, but uses a different algorithm, and you don't have to recalculate each time you move. For nodes that don't move, it seems identical. -- Michael Richardson -on the road-
- Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Brian E Carpenter
- 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Bob Hinden
- Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Brian E Carpenter
- RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Hosnieh Rafiee
- Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Karl Auer
- Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Ole Troan
- RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Hosnieh Rafiee
- RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Hosnieh Rafiee
- Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Nalini Elkins
- Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Hosnieh Rafiee
- RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Hosnieh Rafiee
- Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Nalini Elkins
- Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Nalini Elkins
- RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Hosnieh Rafiee
- Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Nalini Elkins
- Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Michael Richardson
- RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Hosnieh Rafiee
- Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Mark Smith
- Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Carsten Bormann
- RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Hosnieh Rafiee
- Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Bob Hinden
- Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Bob Hinden
- RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Samita Chakrabarti
- RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Hosnieh Rafiee
- Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Bob Hinden
- Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Michael Richardson
- RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Hosnieh Rafiee
- Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Fernando Gont
- Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Fernando Gont
- Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Doug Barton