Re: [irs-discuss] What's in a name?

Stewart Bryant <stbryant@cisco.com> Mon, 12 November 2012 15:42 UTC

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Subject: Re: [irs-discuss] What's in a name?
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On 12/11/2012 14:49, Adrian Farrel wrote:
> Personally, I find discussions of what name/acronym to use a bit sad. I've had
> enough code review hours wasted debating the names of variables to not want to
> spend any more time on this sort of thing.
>
> However, I note that there was some unease about the use of IRS. If we really
> need to find a new name for this work (and I note that RSI is also used for
> something else) we need to find a solution soon.
>
> Can I suggest that only those people who have a strong objection to IRS need to
> contribute to the discussion. Furthermore, we don't need suggestions to be
> floated, we need solid and definite proposals. That way we will possibly reach a
> serious conclusion quickly.
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> Thanks,
> Adrian
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I can sort of understand why IRS (which I assume has humor (without a u) in
its origin) causes concern to some. I guess I would mildly prefer another
name, but continuing with IRS is not a show stopper.

Why not simply put back one of the "T"s

The WG will be "Interface to the routing system" so how about ITRS.

- Stewart