Re: [Json] Proposed minimal change for duplicate names in objects

"Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)" <jhildebr@cisco.com> Mon, 08 July 2013 06:35 UTC

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From: "Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)" <jhildebr@cisco.com>
To: Stephan Beal <sgbeal@googlemail.com>, "json@ietf.org" <json@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Json] Proposed minimal change for duplicate names in objects
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On 7/7/13 12:09 PM, "Stephan Beal" <sgbeal@googlemail.com> wrote:

>Specify the duplicate keys as poor practice leading to
>unspecified/implementation-defined behaviour, and be done it.

I went in to this conversation really wanting to move to MUST. I've now
been convinced that strong language about how awful duplicates are is the
best we can do, so +1.

I don't want people to be able to read the text and argue with a straight
face that their protocol is "legal" when it's just poorly designed.

-- 
Joe Hildebrand