Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-historic-04.txt> (Deprecating infrastructure "int" domains) to Informational RFC
Pete Resnick <resnick@episteme.net> Fri, 21 October 2022 22:14 UTC
Return-Path: <resnick@episteme.net>
X-Original-To: last-call@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: last-call@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3014BC1526F8; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 15:14:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -7.108
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.108 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=episteme.net
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uUoLdY2AsqIr; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 15:14:08 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from helm.helm.episteme.net (helm.helm.episteme.net [209.51.32.195]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0E13C1524AB; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 15:14:08 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=episteme.net; s=mail; t=1666390446; bh=KsEmg02DP5x2j0nPI4a43HPXoYkjuZP4zMvuLwhArYE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=lOMgcjR2WQK5Dsg3jzKLVZijONCvzxWNfj4ZKZs8jxRhS1craC5cTU8crgiSzaKdH uRl3spT+JPCyBFwCaqnC0QCSUa5I0SD+UOokJ+V7iKi9wzXlZ7XJIOk0bKNXid1zVi FqTZrREq4+TC+4Xv/4NjFzx77xk4mTWbiLrG/Jdw=
From: Pete Resnick <resnick@episteme.net>
To: last-call@ietf.org
Cc: draft-davies-int-historic@ietf.org, tjw.ietf@gmail.com, warren@kumari.net
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 17:14:05 -0500
X-Mailer: MailMate (1.14r5920)
Message-ID: <FD582456-588F-414D-A680-959541CF7AFF@episteme.net>
In-Reply-To: <166621075802.44847.14382611991776479938@ietfa.amsl.com>
References: <166621075802.44847.14382611991776479938@ietfa.amsl.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/last-call/lqSqWhrnIXe7Im48-I1yPAOHwoI>
Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-historic-04.txt> (Deprecating infrastructure "int" domains) to Informational RFC
X-BeenThere: last-call@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF Last Calls <last-call.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/last-call>, <mailto:last-call-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/last-call/>
List-Post: <mailto:last-call@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:last-call-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/last-call>, <mailto:last-call-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 22:14:13 -0000
Pure procedural fussiness, but I'm that sort of person: Informational documents do not "mark" or "move" other documents to "Historic". They request the status change. I'm also not entirely sure what "marking a domain name as historic" might mean. Here are some strictly editorial changes to clarify: In Abstract: OLD The document marks as historic any "int" domain names that were designated for infrastructure purposes, and identifies them for removal from the "int" top-level domain. Any implementation that involves these domains should be considered deprecated. This document also marks RFC 1528 and RFC 1706 as historic. NEW The document deprecates the use of any "int" domain names that were designated for infrastructure purposes, and identifies them for removal from the "int" top-level domain. Any implementation that involves these domains should be considered deprecated. This document also requests moving the status of RFC 1528 and RFC 1706 to historic. In Section 1: OLD The documented uses of infrastructural identifiers in the "int" domain were largely experimental and in practice obsolete. This document formalizes moving the related specifications to historic status, along with removing any associated delegations from the "int" zone in the domain name system. NEW The documented uses of infrastructural identifiers in the "int" domain were largely experimental and in practice obsolete. This document requests moving the related specifications to historic status, along with removing any associated delegations from the "int" zone in the domain name system. (I haven't addressed George's comment to add "by the IETF" or the David's comment to add additional RFCs to the Historic list.) pr -- Pete Resnick https://www.episteme.net/ All connections to the world are tenuous at best On 19 Oct 2022, at 15:19, The IESG wrote: > The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to > consider the > following document: - 'Deprecating infrastructure "int" domains' > <draft-davies-int-historic-04.txt> as Informational RFC > > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits > final > comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the > last-call@ietf.org mailing lists by 2022-11-23. Exceptionally, > comments may > be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the > beginning > of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. > > Abstract > > > The document marks as historic any "int" domain names that were > designated for infrastructure purposes, and identifies them for > removal from the "int" top-level domain. Any implementation that > involves these domains should be considered deprecated. This > document also marks RFC 1528 and RFC 1706 as historic. > > > > > The file can be obtained via > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-davies-int-historic/ > > Please also see: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/status-change-int-tlds-to-historic/ > (the associated "status change" document) > > No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Last-Call] [Ext] Re: Last Call: <draft-davie… Kim Davies
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… George Michaelson
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [Last-Call] [Ext] Re: Last Call: <draft-davie… Kim Davies
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… Scott Bradner
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… George Michaelson
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… Scott Bradner
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… Scott Bradner
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… George Michaelson
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… Scott Bradner
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… Scott Bradner
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… George Michaelson
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… Michael StJohns
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… John C Klensin
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… David Farmer
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… David Farmer
- Re: [Last-Call] [Ext] Re: Last Call: <draft-davie… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Last-Call] [Ext] Re: Last Call: <draft-davie… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… Pete Resnick
- Re: [Last-Call] [Ext] Re: Last Call: <draft-davie… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Last-Call] [Ext] Re: Last Call: <draft-davie… Warren Kumari
- Re: [Last-Call] [Ext] Re: Last Call: <draft-davie… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-davies-int-hist… Warren Kumari
- [Last-Call] emo-dir ? Re: [Ext] Re: Last Call: <d… Toerless Eckert