Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement-03.txt

["Acee Lindem (acee)" <[e-mail]>]

Hi Zhibo,

From: Lsr <[e-mail]> on behalf of Huzhibo <[e-mail]>
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 12:14 PM
To: Acee Lindem <[e-mail]>, Peter Psenak <ppsenak=[e-mail]>, Robert Raszuk <[e-mail]>
Cc: lsr <[e-mail]>, Aijun Wang <[e-mail]>, Xiaoyaqun <[e-mail]>, Aijun Wang <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement-03.txt


HI acee：

PUA does not advertise reachable or unreachable details, it advertise events with prefix from up to down.

I don’t see the distinction here and it is not described in the latest version of the draft (posted Monday). You must be envisioning some protocol behavior that is yet to be documented.

Thanks,
Acee



thanks

Zhibo







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主 题：Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement-03.txt

So, how do we define a reachable route - is it any route subsumed by the summary LSA that we knew about in the past that becomes unreachable? When the PUA is withdrawn, how do we know whether it is because of expiration of the interval or the route becoming reachable again? This is a slippery slope.
Thanks,
Acee

On 7/30/20, 10:34 AM, "Lsr on behalf of Peter Psenak" <[e-mail] on behalf of ppsenak=[e-mail]> wrote:

    On 30/07/2020 16:30, Robert Raszuk wrote:
    > Hey Peter,
    >
    > Not sure how smart you really want to be here but keep in mind that BGP
    > say option C may never hear about it all the way to the egress PE in
    > other domain or area ... It is almost always incongruent with IGP.
    >
    > So if the BGP path is installed it will indeed be at risk to resolve via
    > less specific when it is still active BGP path and you too quickly
    > remove info about unreachability.

    again, if you are smart you can use this info to your advantage, even
    without putting it in the forwarding and leaving the less specific stuff
    intact.

    Peter


    >
    > Thx
    > R.
    >
    > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 4:21 PM Peter Psenak <[e-mail]
    > <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
    >
    >     On 30/07/2020 16:14, Robert Raszuk wrote:
    >      >      > 2：For bgp example，when the pe node down，the bgp peer
    >     must down
    >      >     within
    >      >      > 30 mintus，It will not get it up via cancle advertise pua.
    >      >
    >      >     for the above it is sufficient to advertise the
    >     unreachability for few
    >      >     seconds from each ABR independently. That would be a much
    >     more solid
    >      >     proposal.
    >      >
    >      >
    >      > Not sure about "few seconds" ... IBGP def hold time in number of
    >      > implementations is 180 sec :) .. but few minutes will work for sure.
    >
    >     depends how you use it.
    >
    >     If you can use the unreachable info in a smart way, it's sufficient if
    >     it is present for a very short time interval.
    >
    >     thanks,
    >     Peter
    >
    >      >
    >      > Thx,
    >      > R.
    >      >
    >

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