Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter
Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> Mon, 27 January 2020 08:26 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter
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i mostly think the same, but i'm concerned about one aspect of H3 that may be sufficiently far from the core protocol to warrant special focus on the proxy, and that is the enterprise situation where the endpoint trusts the proxy to either carry the transaction for it, or to refer the endpoint to a native flow. use case, employee doing their banking from their corporate desktop during their lunch break. this isn't a well-loved scenario because it's so close to the nation-state authoritarian situation. but i'd like to explore it with a group of open minded others, and i think doing it inside the QUIC or HTTP WG would make for big distraction. there is, separately and precedingly, the the process by which an endpoint would discover, and know whether or not to trust, an enterprise outbound proxy. am i in the wrong basket? vixie re: On Monday, 27 January 2020 07:22:14 UTC Lars Eggert wrote: > Hi, > > what motivates a separate WG vs. doing this in the QUIC WG? > > There are aspects of the charter - e.g., one-sided (transparent to the > peer?) cooperation with middleboxes, double-encryption avoidance (does this > translated to an "unencrypted" mode for QUIC?) - that could have a large > impact on the base protocol. That suggests to me tight coordination with > the base protocol is essential. > > Thanks, > Lars -- Paul
- [Masque] Proposed draft charter Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Lars Eggert
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Paul Vixie
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Lucas Pardue
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Derek Fawcus
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Lars Eggert
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Marcus Ihlar
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Lars Eggert
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Marcus Ihlar
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Paul Vixie
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Eric Kinnear
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter David Schinazi
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Eric Kinnear
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Christian Huitema
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter Spencer Dawkins at IETF