Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Tue, 11 February 2020 12:25 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 04:25:01 -0800
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Subject: Re: [Masque] Proposed draft charter
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On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 8:26 PM Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>
wrote:

>
> On 2/10/2020 7:18 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote:
>
>
>>> I'm a little confused here, about whether (HTTP/3-)QUIC is also in scope
>>> as a proxied protocol. Does everyone else know whether it is, and I'm just
>>> catching up?
>>>
>>
>> Well, it's just UDP, so yes.
>>
>
> :-)
>
> Actually, that's still not entirely clear. There are two ways of
> connecting UDP: connected sockets, or full sockets. One is adequate for
> proxying a Quic client: a Quic datagram stream is associated with a five
> tuple on the proxy. The other is what you want for a Quic server: a Quic
> datagram stream is associated with a 3-tuple on the proxy. It is not clear
> to me whether we are speaking of one or the other.
>
> I assume that we are speaking about the five-tuple variant, which is
> equivalent to a TCP connection. But this is not obvious from the charter.
>
I think we should specify the client->server piece first and see how that
goes. The other one is harder and has more policy issues, as we found with
TURN

-Ekr

> -- Christian Huitema
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